Wtf?

DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
<div class="IPBDescription">I ordered a game...</div> I ordered a game on the 2nd of February, they emailed me saying it had been dispatched on the 4th and should be at my house within 7 working days, its now the 19th of February and i still have not got it, ive emailed them but they have not responded...

WTF?
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  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    where u buy it from? amazon is probs the best place for service. is there a phone number on the page? if there is it might help to call them but u might only get a stupid person on the other side telling you it will arive tomorrow...
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    your fault from buying from a place that dosn't exist
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Feb 19 2003, 09:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Feb 19 2003, 09:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> your fault from buying from a place that dosn't exist <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You didnt look hard enough then....

    www.mx2.org exists but judging by their "important message" they are covering their tracks and have probably run off with the cash...
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    edited February 2003
    <span style='color:white'><b> If you don't have anything nice to say, shut your pie hole...</span></b>
    Couldnt i sue them or something? Probly could if i was in America.

    Edit:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Please note : we have recently experienced some technical problems relating to orders placed via this website between Friday 24th January and Sunday 26th January 2002 inclusive. All customers affected are asked to please contact Customer services on 01481-740400. Only these dates are relevant. This problem has now been rectified. We are sorry for any inconvenience caused<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That was between 24th January and 26th of January...
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited February 2003
    SBV, think just a little bit...

    There are several DNS extensions for websites, like .com, .net, .edu, .org, .uk, .etc.

    Now, the reason for this is so that different catagories of sites can be classified by extension.

    .com is for comercial, where you might buy games.

    .org is for <b>non-profit</b> organizations. If you're at a .org site and they're offering to sell you something, a red flag should go off in your head.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Aye, rob hit that one. You would never buy a car from some place you had never heard of, so why a game? Stick with the biggies: they're popular for a reason.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    So if they have stolen my money, what do i do?
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Thats going to help isnt it...
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    If you paid by credit card, you'll have a few more options available to you than if you paid by cash/moneyorder/paypal/etc.

    However, you might still be screwed out of your money - one of the first questions a false credit card payment investigation will try to answer is "did the client verify the reliability of the company before authorizing the payment?".
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    While I can't believe you were dumb enough to buy anything from a site like that (their design alone should tell you they are bogus), I'll help you anyway.

    You most likely put the order on a credit card yes? If so, contact them ASAP and see what you can get do, because you are a victim of fraud.

    If you wrote a check, contact your bank.

    If this doesn't help, try contacting your local police.

    If you were dumb enough to send cash, well then you learned a two valuable lessons in one shot: Do not send cash through the mail, and Do not buy from fishy web sites.

    Something else, their ordering process is not even secure!! Which means its even more probable that they were just out to steal your money.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I decided to be nice and do a DNS WHOIS for you...
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Domain ID:D11777068-LROR
    Domain Name:MX2.ORG
    Created On:28-Oct-1999 01:07:53 UTC
    Last Updated On:11-Dec-2002 17:23:20 UTC
    Expiration Date:28-Oct-2003 02:07:53 UTC
    Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR
    Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
    Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
    Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
    Registrant ID:11-C
    Registrant Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
    Registrant Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
    Registrant Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
    Registrant City:N/A
    Registrant Postal Code:N/A
    Registrant Country:CA
    Registrant Email:not@available.org
    Admin ID:11-C
    Admin Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
    Admin Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
    Admin Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
    Admin City:N/A
    Admin Postal Code:N/A
    Admin Country:CA
    Admin Email:not@available.org
    Billing ID:11-C
    Billing Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
    Billing Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
    Billing Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
    Billing City:N/A
    Billing Postal Code:N/A
    Billing Country:CA
    Billing Email:not@available.org
    Tech ID:11-C
    Tech Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
    Tech Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
    Tech Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
    Tech City:N/A
    Tech Postal Code:N/A
    Tech Country:CA
    Tech Email:not@available.org
    Name Server:NS1.NETLINK.CO.UK
    Name Server:NS0.NETLINK.CO.UK
    Name Server:NS2.NETLINK.CO.UK<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Basically what this means is, you were screwed. The whole site is nothing but a total scam. And if this info is faked any authorities will have a harder time (though still not impossible) tracking down the culprits.

    In comparrison a proper, non scam site's DNS is like this:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Domain Name: NATURAL-SELECTION.ORG

      Administrative Contact:
          Cleveland, Charles  (XXXXXXX)  nsi@overmind.org
          Cleveland,Charles
          XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
          XXXX, MA  XXXXX-XXXX
          US
          XXX XXX-XXXX XXX XXX XXXX
      Technical Contact:
          VeriSign, Inc.  (HOST-ORG)  namehost@WORLDNIC.NET
          VeriSign, Inc.
          21355 Ridgetop Circle
          Dulles, VA 20166
          US
          1-888-642-9675<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    (I was nice and edited out Flayra's personal info heh.

    So, Congrats SBV.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Okay I was nice AGAIN and decided to try another DNS whois server. This one seemed to have found at least who the domain used to belong to, but its a good lead as to who is ripping you off:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Query 'NetGeo - The Internet Geographic Database' for 195.102.60.30

    NetGeo Results:
    VERSION=1.0
    TARGET:        195.102.60.30
    NAME:          U-NET-WEB1
    NUMBER:        195.102.48.0 - 195.102.60.255
    CITY:          WARRINGTON
    STATE:        CHESHIRE (county), ENGLAND (country)
    COUNTRY:      UK
    LAT:          53.40
    LONG:          -2.62
    LAT_LONG_GRAN: City
    LAST_UPDATED: 
    NIC:          RIPE
    LOOKUP_TYPE:  Block Allocation
    RATING:       
    DOMAIN_GUESS:  vianetworks.co.uk
    STATUS:        OK<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Whois        : mx2.org

    'whois -h whois.publicinterestregistry.net mx2.org'

    Registrar: istrar:R11-LROR

    'whois -h whois.opensrs.net mx2.org'

    Registrant:
    MX2 Computers Limited
    Unit 6
    Boullion Lane
    St. Peter Port
    Guernsey,  GY1 2BF
    UK

    Domain name: MX2.ORG

    Administrative Contact:
        Administrator, Domain  john@mx2.com
        Belleisle
        La Rue Cotelle
        Le Villette
        St Martins, Guernsey GY4 6QH
        UK
        +44 1481 740010    Fax: +44 1481 736622

    Technical Contact:
        Barrington-Brown, James  domains@no1isp.net
        Suite 9a
        Coliseum Business Centre
        Watchmoor Park
        Camberley, Surrey GU15 3YL
        UK
        0870 1212555    Fax: 0870 1212556



    Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
    Record last updated on 11-Dec-2002.
    Record expires on 27-Oct-2003.
    Record Created on 27-Oct-1999.

    Domain servers in listed order:
        NS0.NETLINK.CO.UK 
        NS1.NETLINK.CO.UK 
        NS2.NETLINK.CO.UK<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Whois query by IP address allocation:

    'whois -h whois.ripe.net 195.102.60.30'

    % This is the RIPE Whois server.
    % The objects are in RPSL format.
    %
    % Rights restricted by copyright.
    % See <a href='http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html' target='_blank'>http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/d.../copyright.html</a>

    inetnum:      195.102.48.0 - 195.102.60.255
    netname:      U-NET-WEB1
    descr:        U-NET INTERNAL USE
    country:      GB
    admin-c:      VNUa1-RIPE
    admin-c:      VNUa2-RIPE
    tech-c:      VNUa1-RIPE
    tech-c:      VNUa2-RIPE
    status:      ASSIGNED PA
    mnt-by:      NS737-RIPE-MNT
    changed:      garry@u-net.net 19981019
    changed:      garry@u.net.uk 19981222
    changed:      tbridge@vianetworks.ie 20011003
    source:      RIPE

    route:        195.102.0.0/16
    descr:        VIA NET.WORKS UK
    origin:      AS5669
    notify:      noc@vianetworks.co.uk
    mnt-by:      VIANETWORKS-UK-MNT
    changed:      tbridge@vianetworks.ie 20020606
    source:      RIPE

    role:        VIA NET.WORKS UK and Ireland NOC
    address:      830 Birchwood Boulevard
    address:      Warrington, England
    e-mail:      noc@vianetworks.co.uk
    trouble:      Email noc@vianetworks.co.uk
    trouble:      or phone +353 1 4336070
    admin-c:      KMO1-RIPE
    admin-c:      GKT1-RIPE
    admin-c:      GJB18-RIPE
    tech-c:      GKT1-RIPE
    tech-c:      KMO1-RIPE
    tech-c:      GJB18-RIPE
    nic-hdl:      VNUa1-RIPE
    notify:      noc@vianetworks.co.uk
    mnt-by:      VIANETWORKS-UK-MNT
    changed:      tbridge@vianetworks.co.uk 20010816
    changed:      tbridge@vianetworks.co.uk 20010918
    changed:      tbridge@vianetworks.co.uk 20020319
    changed:      gbowen@vianetworks.co.uk 20030218
    source:      RIPE

    role:        VIA NET.WORKS UK and Ireland Network Support
    address:      830 Birchwood Boulevard
    address:      Warrington, England
    e-mail:      networksupport@vianetworks.co.uk
    admin-c:      RH11142-RIPE
    admin-c:      GJB18-RIPE
    tech-c:      RH11142-RIPE
    tech-c:      GJB18-RIPE
    nic-hdl:      VNUa2-RIPE
    notify:      networksupport@vianetworks.co.uk
    mnt-by:      VIANETWORKS-UK-MNT
    changed:      tbridge@vianetworks.co.uk 20010918
    source:      RIPE<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Now don't ask me what all of the stuff in here mean, as I'm not quite sure myself. But i'm sure some things scream out, like oh say, the address of the place in Warrington, England. heh. Keep all this information handy in case authorities want it.
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    DOOManiac to the rescue <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    SBV you should probably stick to using eBay or Amazon.
    GamePlay used to have some great price but i've not looked
    in a while. Shop around but stick to places with a reputation.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    They were sold out and i really wanted the game..

    Do i send him hatemail? Hehe.. nah what do i do? Contact him saying i know they are frauding or what ever..

    I paid by credit card.
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    I'm not sure, but if I were you, at this point, I'd:

    Cancel the credit card
    Contact the authorities

    Not recommending anything, it's just what I would do.
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    How did you find this mx2.org site? Because I would be flaming whatever site reffered me there or beating down whoever suggested I buy from them!
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Cancel the credit card?
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Silent But Violent+Feb 19 2003, 08:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silent But Violent @ Feb 19 2003, 08:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Cancel the credit card? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That or rob's lying. Take your pic.

    It calls games food. It also calls peripherals food. I was searching the site, and I found nothing edible.

    If it says food, and you order it, and it comes, and you can't eat it, then le site is probably fishy. If you KNOW what you are ordering is not edible, but it calls it "food" for one reason or another (Maybe they are trying to be cute. Makes no sense) then you should think "These people are crazy or stupid" and go to good ol' eBay.
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    Good sites to buy games That I know of:

    Ebgames.com

    Amazon.com (be careful of private auctions though)

    Gamestop.com (might be babbages.com)

    Ebay.com (again, check the persons record)

    ZDnet.com (Ziff-Davis, they publish magazines such as EGM and XBN, they also run Download.com)

    The game's producer, such as EA, Interplay, Activision etc.

    Or just travel to the store and buy it if it's relatively new.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Silent But Violent+Feb 19 2003, 02:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silent But Violent @ Feb 19 2003, 02:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They were sold out and i really wanted the game..

    Do i send him hatemail? Hehe.. nah what do i do? Contact him saying i know they are frauding or what ever..

    I paid by credit card. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...

    READ MY POSTS. Jeez i take the time to help you out and you just ignore everything I type...
  • MaTTMaTT Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3033Members
    Basically contact your credit card company and the police with the details of the fraud and show them a print out of the information DOOManiac has gathered for you...
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    um, last I checked, I could request that my credit card company *not* send money to certain things. Like, for example, when I bought 10,000 dollars' worth of diamonds somewhere in asia.. (I've never been to asia). Credit card companies usually wait like a month before transferring the dough.
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I checked MX2 Ltd. on Google, and im getting alot of sites that even recommend the place.

    Sounds like your game simply got lost in the mail or somewhere along way, call them and ask them.

    If its a fraud its one damn elaborate that hasn't gotten caught.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Doom, my printer dont work. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I didnt ignore what you wrote, infact i put it all into a file, but i just want some more opinions on what to do.

    Today i finally got another email asking me to send them info about what i ordered, my address, the email confirming it and any other emails sent to me...

    Lets hope they just trace it.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    thats pretty scary DOOManiac
    that by doing a DNSWHOIS, you can find out just about anything about someone...even their frigging door number...
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    lol, its just a telephone book for the internet (not that creapy when you think about it that way)

    remember, you have to supply this info.

    oh well, SBV better hope you saved your order conf (if so, and they are not a scam, they you should be safe)
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Feb 20 2003, 11:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Feb 20 2003, 11:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol, its just a telephone book for the internet (not that creapy when you think about it that way)
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What's creepy is that supernorn doesn't know DOOManiac's name. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    SBV, I might wait to see if you ever do get the game, since you got that email and all. Just my opinion.
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