Admin Mod And Alternatives?

Belabor

Does anyone have any experience with both adminmod and other metamod admin plugins? The word on the street is adminmod and NS don't seem to proform that well together in linux.. Is there any truth to this, and should I consider an alternative? Our server is stretched pretty thin as it is with two other HL servers running, so any slight improvement is worth it.


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SpiffyJr

I prefer amxmod... get it at <a href='http://www.amxmod.net' target='_blank'>http://www.amxmod.net</a>

Tweedle

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The only problem with amxmod is that it has a zero documentation. I'm trying to set it up now but am eyeing clanmod again ..

r3v0luti0n

it has documentation, albeit not as much as adminmod though. the readme is all an experienced admin needs to install amx. if you have any other questions, then just post them on the amx forums.

Roobubba

Shame you're not running windows if you like adminmod. My server is now VERY stable (over 4 days up now, more than 250 map changes so far with no crash and heavy loads too) with adminmod (obviously metamod therefore too).
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Roob's bubtastic NS 1.04
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f3Rl3SS

<!--QuoteBegin--Tweedle+Feb 14 2003, 05:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tweedle @ Feb 14 2003, 05:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SpiffyJr+Feb 14 2003, 11:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SpiffyJr @ Feb 14 2003, 11:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I prefer amxmod... get it at <a href='http://www.amxmod.net' target='_blank'>http://www.amxmod.net</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only problem with amxmod is that it has a zero documentation. I'm trying to set it up now but am eyeing clanmod again .. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ahm ... that's not really correct.
Did you have a look at the amxmod forums? All the plugins are documentated there including the source.

btw amxmod is really great! I love it cause its completly customizeable!
In my opinion Clanmods docu is much worste and it has no features which are not included with amx.
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SpiffyJr

Well, there is a readme.txt but I'll give you the rundown.

1.) Download the newest version of metamod from <a href='http://www.metamod.org' target='_blank'>http://www.metamod.org</a>. Make the following directory structure inside your mod folder.

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$moddir/addons
$moddir/addons/metamod
$moddir/addons/metamod/dlls

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and put the binary you just downloaded in addons/metamod/dlls.

2.) Create the files $moddir/addons/metamod/plugins.ini (will hold all your metamod plugins) and $moddir/addons/metamod/exec.cfg (will hold some cvars if you need them).

3.) Edit your ns/liblist.gam file making the following changes:

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gamedll "dlls\mp.dll"                               --> gamedll "addons/metamod/dlls/metamod.dll"
gamedll_linux "dlls/ns_i386.so"              --> gamedll_linux "addons/metamod/dlls/metamod_i386.so"

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installation of metamod is now complete.

4.) Now time to install amx. Edit $moddir/addons/metamod/plugins.ini and insert

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; AMX Mod
win32 addons\amx\dlls\amx_mm.dll
linux addons/amx/dlls/amx_mm_i386.so
; More script functions for AMX Mod
win32 addons\amx\dlls\fun_ms.dll
linux addons/amx/dlls/fun_ms_i386.so

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5.) Edit $moddir/addons/amx/admin.cfg to your liking, boot up the server and type meta list. You should see something similar to the following.

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meta list
Currently loaded plugins:
     description      stat pend  file              vers      src  load  unlod
[ 1] WebMod           RUN   -    w_mm_i386.so      v0.46     ini  Start Never
[ 2] NS StripEnt      RUN   -    stripent_mm.so    v1.00.00  ini  Chlvl Chlvl
[ 3] Unstuck Pro      RUN   -    unstuck_mm.so     v1.00     ini  Pause Pause
[ 4] AMX              RUN   -    amx_mm_i386.so    v0.9.2    ini  Start Start
[ 5] FUN              RUN   -    fun_ms_i386.so    v0.9.2    ini  Start Start
[ 6] AMX Log Daemon   RUN   -    logd_ms_i386.so   v1.00.5   ini  ANY   Pause
6 plugins, 6 running

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pay special attention to the AMX, and FUN listings. If they show as listed then you've successfully installed amx and metamod. If they have fail anywhere, reread these instructions and try again. You can also do a amx list and get a listing of plugins you have running. For example.

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amx list
Currently loaded plugins:
     name               version  author             file             status
[ 1] Admin Base         0.9.2    default            admin.amx        running  
[ 2] Admins from MySQL  0.6      dJeyL              admin_mysql.amx  running  
[ 3] AFK                0.8      Tcquest78          afk.amx          running  
[ 4] MySQL Ban Managem  0.45b    JustinHoMi         mysql_ban.amx    running  
[ 5] Admin Commands     0.9.2    default            admincmd.amx     running  
[ 6] Admin Help         0.9.2    tcquest78          adminhelp.amx    running  
[ 7] Admin Menu         0.9.2    default            adminmenu.amx    running  
[ 8] Slots Reservation  0.9.2    default            adminslots.amx   running  
[ 9] Admin Chat         0.9.2    default            adminchat.amx    running  
[10] Admin Votes        0.9.2    default            adminvote.amx    running  
[11] Anti Flood         0.8      default            antiflood.amx    running  
[12] Admin Bury         0.9.3    f117bomb           bury.amx         running  
[13] AMX Contact        0.3a     Phreak             contact.amx      running  
[14] Client Exec        0.7      nobody             exec.amx         running  
[15] High Ping Kicker   0.8      [SE]ErASor         highping.amx     running  
[16] NextMap            0.9.2    default            nextmap.amx      running  
[17] TimeLeft           0.9.2    default            timeleft.amx     running  
[18] Nextmap chooser    0.9.2    default            mapchooser.amx   running  
[19] Info. Messages     0.9.2    default            imessage.amx     running  
[20] Welcome Message    0.8      default            welcomemsg.amx   running  
[21] Pause Plugins      0.8      default            ppause.amx       running  
[22] NS Team            0.8      Tcquest78          ns_team.amx      running  
[23] NS Tsay            0.8      Tcquest78          ns_tsay.amx      running  
[24] HLstats skill      0.81     JustinHoMi         skill.amx        running  
[25] Speech             1.1      Toverand           speak.amx        running  
25 plugins, 25 running

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Hope this helps.

f3Rl3SS

OK .... just wanted to add a lil help if <i>amx list</i> does not work.
Try to type <i>meta version</i> in console.
If there is a reply and it gives you version <1.14.1 you have to update metamod. (AMX aonly works with metamod version >=1.14.1.
If there is no reply, your metamod install just failed.

Tweedle

My main desire is to have easy menu-driven administrative functions. The extra menu plugins appear to be CS only.. starting with something along the lines of gameType = "cstike". Also, there is no documentation as to how to <i>use</i> any of the admin stuff once it is in place. Am I supposed to guess? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

SpiffyJr

Once you got your admin access up, join the game and type amx_help in console. It'll give you a rundown of all the commands you have access to.

Belabor

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I AM SO GOING TO FORGET YOU SAID THAT.

Seriously, I would... but it's a server that runs other stuff, so I need to worry about things like security and stability (4 day server uptime is not my needed 400 day uptime).

Everyone else, thanks for the info. Very helpful.