lmao, not meaning to sound rude or anything but why even bother making this topic?
All their answers are 'then it's ready', 'when it's done', 'its out when it's out' :-/
Anyhow, to be honest, I'd prefer to have a 1.1 which is nicely tuned, balanced and beautiful instead of a 1.1 which is rushed, ragged and rather rhyming (hehe)
no it wil never come out now. 14.2.2003 is just the end date of map submiting for playtesting maps to get oficial 1.1 maps. Read closer, switch brain on and dont trust rumours.
If 1.1 would come out today they should have playtested all custom maps at once today.
It's a little known fact, but the main reason Flayra has had a boringly long job search lately is because software publishers don't agree with his policies of 'testing', 'balance work', 'timely patches', 'exploit fixing', and 'innovative game design'.
Now if he would just rush out some derivative DM-based craptastic gameplay with 'an amazing new graphics engine' (which can only be run on your P5 10Ghz at 640x480), he'd be in like Flynn...
And why isn't he doing that Monse? I am *not* impressed <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Flynn? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> Can some one please fill me in on the details (and no rumors please <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
MonsE is just a crazy little PR guy, ignore him <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> j/k
<!--QuoteBegin--redeemed darkness+Feb 14 2003, 08:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (redeemed darkness @ Feb 14 2003, 08:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flynn? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> Can some one please fill me in on the details (and no rumors please <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_156.html' target='_blank'>Here</a> is a pretty good explanation - not exactly conclusive, but pretty close. Probably more than you ever wanted to know...
<!--QuoteBegin--KboT+Feb 14 2003, 12:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KboT @ Feb 14 2003, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I thought Version 1.1 client patch was sapost to be out today? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I believe you misunderstood something ...
<!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Feb 14 2003, 10:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Feb 14 2003, 10:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's a little known fact, but the main reason Flayra has had a boringly long job search lately is because software publishers don't agree with his policies of 'testing', 'balance work', 'timely patches', 'exploit fixing', and 'innovative game design'.
Now if he would just rush out some derivative DM-based craptastic gameplay with 'an amazing new graphics engine™' (which can only be run on your P5 10Ghz at 640x480), he'd be in like Flynn... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> There was a really good comic strip of Dilbert out this month, torwards the beginning of it I believe, you can check it out at Dilbert.com.
What it involves is his employers asking him to put certain inherent flaws into his program for the company <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Feb 14 2003, 10:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Feb 14 2003, 10:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's a little known fact, but the main reason Flayra has had a boringly long job search lately is because software publishers don't agree with his policies of 'testing', 'balance work', 'timely patches', 'exploit fixing', and 'innovative game design'.
Now if he would just rush out some derivative DM-based craptastic gameplay with 'an amazing new graphics engine™' (which can only be run on your P5 10Ghz at 640x480), he'd be in like Flynn... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You MUST be kidding me... he codes a mod that's been downloaded 10,000 times, gets rave reviews, and has 1000+ people on at any one time and the industry STILL doesn't want him?
I may reconsider being a game programmer when i grow up...
It does?! Hey that's great news! Cogs in motion, wheels turning, all good, all good! Btw, any news on stuff they're gonna implement? (apart from the stuff on the news page) Bit of "insider info"? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
ShockehIf a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it...Join Date: 2002-11-19Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
Fox - Don't you be baiting me with your 'playtester' status..... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
to tell you the truth, I've been in the dark to what it is we are going to be testing ...
as far as I know, the only thing new thats been added is the HLTV support.
However, I hope there is more to test then that ... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Ahh yes the glorious testing. You guys test til your little heart is content. Im sure 1.1 will be all its cracked up to be and more. Im willing to wait as long as that takes. Good luck and may the code be with you.
But if they're in testing they can tell us what features are in couldn't they.. just a hint.. a tiny one?
Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaseee *puppy dog eyes* <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Oh gawwan.. c'mon.. just a little..
Lerks.. we wana know about lerks.. yes tell us about lerks.. and and yea resource models.. we wana hear about them too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
A leaked changelog would be good enough. Even if someone just made it all up <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->to tell you the truth, I've been in the dark to what it is we are going to be testing ... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well we can wait a bit. I'm sure one of the playtesters will let something slip. And why arn't you testing right now Silver Fox? Wasteing time in the forums when you should be out earning that playtester title!! (j/k) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Pleeeeeeeeease tell us something? (skulk with puppy dog eyes crawls up and nuzzles Silver Fox's leg gently, then looks up with a big wide innocent questioning expression....)
mm..this hasnt been locked..i guess id better contribute then <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Flayra cant get a job because of the computer game industry being stubborn money snatching thieves. most games now-days are all the same...war based, cheesy, linear, rushed, out of the door, craptastic rubbish.(i like that word)
Oh, how many times have you heard a badly voiced NPC shout "follow me" only for a very convenient piece of roofing to block the passage...or "lets split up" ..or even..."ill go THIS way... they all put you in the same position..you run off all by yourself with a wide selection of weapons shooting NPCs with incredibly bad A.I. until you complete the game.
This is why solo-mission games are total PANTS for me. I was incredibly dissapointed with MOH:AA because it had basically the same rules...either scripted unavoidable deaths of NPCS (argh!..dam Omaha beach) which basically ruined the whole.. 'i must save my team-mates in a feat of heroism!' thing....
And whats with all the GREY? take a look at almost every FPS (especially the war ones) and you will see everything is a shade of Grey...they could at least vary the colour scheme!
The only game that completely breaks these rules is five years old and has the largest game community ever...you should know what game this is. After all......you have a copy of it somewhere....
well thats my contribution.
Oh and silver_fox? how did the playtesting go? id like to see if 1.1 is ok.. i mean it needs to be if its coming out tommorow... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
coilAmateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance.Join Date: 2002-04-12Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
Playtesting of maps for 1.1 began last weekend; it continues this weekend, and we may be receiving the first 1.1 beta (or whatever you want to call it) patch as well.
However, the pre-release NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) is back in effect for 1.1; if you hear anything about it, it's going to be from Flay or MonsE. There's going to be a fair amount of experimentation going on; telling you "X is in" only to have it replaced by Y a week later just creates rumors, and results in a lot of "what happened to Z?!?!" when it finally is released.
yes..listen to coil...he has a plushy onos avatar... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
At least now we can play NS <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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All their answers are 'then it's ready', 'when it's done', 'its out when it's out' :-/
Anyhow, to be honest, I'd prefer to have a 1.1 which is nicely tuned, balanced and beautiful instead of a 1.1 which is rushed, ragged and rather rhyming (hehe)
14.2.2003 is just the end date of map submiting for playtesting maps to get oficial 1.1 maps.
Read closer, switch brain on and dont trust rumours.
If 1.1 would come out today they should have playtested all custom maps at once today.
Now if he would just rush out some derivative DM-based craptastic gameplay with 'an amazing new graphics engine' (which can only be run on your P5 10Ghz at 640x480), he'd be in like Flynn...
Can some one please fill me in on the details (and no rumors please <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
It's all his fault.
Can some one please fill me in on the details (and no rumors please <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_156.html' target='_blank'>Here</a> is a pretty good explanation - not exactly conclusive, but pretty close. Probably more than you ever wanted to know...
I believe you misunderstood something ...
<b>testing</b> starts today.
Now if he would just rush out some derivative DM-based craptastic gameplay with 'an amazing new graphics engine™' (which can only be run on your P5 10Ghz at 640x480), he'd be in like Flynn... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
There was a really good comic strip of Dilbert out this month, torwards the beginning of it I believe, you can check it out at Dilbert.com.
What it involves is his employers asking him to put certain inherent flaws into his program for the company <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Now if he would just rush out some derivative DM-based craptastic gameplay with 'an amazing new graphics engine™' (which can only be run on your P5 10Ghz at 640x480), he'd be in like Flynn... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You MUST be kidding me... he codes a mod that's been downloaded 10,000 times, gets rave reviews, and has 1000+ people on at any one time and the industry STILL doesn't want him?
I may reconsider being a game programmer when i grow up...
testing starts today. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It does?! Hey that's great news! Cogs in motion, wheels turning, all good, all good! Btw, any news on stuff they're gonna implement? (apart from the stuff on the news page) Bit of "insider info"? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
to tell you the truth, I've been in the dark to what it is we are going to be testing ...
as far as I know, the only thing new thats been added is the HLTV support.
However, I hope there is more to test then that ... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaseee *puppy dog eyes* <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Oh gawwan.. c'mon.. just a little..
Lerks.. we wana know about lerks.. yes tell us about lerks.. and and yea resource models.. we wana hear about them too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
BlueGhost
At least it would distract us for a bit.
you stole my word!
its gonna be ages untill 1.1 i`d say, but i don`t mind, 1.0 and the 1.04 patch is fine right now, balanced ish enough and fun to play at least.
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Well we can wait a bit. I'm sure one of the playtesters will let something slip. And why arn't you testing right now Silver Fox? Wasteing time in the forums when you should be out earning that playtester title!! (j/k) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Pleeeeeeeeease tell us something? (skulk with puppy dog eyes crawls up and nuzzles Silver Fox's leg gently, then looks up with a big wide innocent questioning expression....)
Flayra cant get a job because of the computer game industry being stubborn money snatching thieves.
most games now-days are all the same...war based, cheesy, linear, rushed, out of the door, craptastic rubbish.(i like that word)
Oh, how many times have you heard a badly voiced NPC shout "follow me" only for a very convenient piece of roofing to block the passage...or "lets split up" ..or even..."ill go THIS way... they all put you in the same position..you run off all by yourself with a wide selection of weapons shooting NPCs with incredibly bad A.I. until you complete the game.
This is why solo-mission games are total PANTS for me. I was incredibly dissapointed with MOH:AA because it had basically the same rules...either scripted unavoidable deaths of NPCS (argh!..dam Omaha beach) which basically ruined the whole.. 'i must save my team-mates in a feat of heroism!' thing....
And whats with all the GREY? take a look at almost every FPS (especially the war ones) and you will see everything is a shade of Grey...they could at least vary the colour scheme!
The only game that completely breaks these rules is five years old and has the largest game community ever...you should know what game this is. After all......you have a copy of it somewhere....
well thats my contribution.
Oh and silver_fox? how did the playtesting go? id like to see if 1.1 is ok..
i mean it needs to be if its coming out tommorow... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
However, the pre-release NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) is back in effect for 1.1; if you hear anything about it, it's going to be from Flay or MonsE. There's going to be a fair amount of experimentation going on; telling you "X is in" only to have it replaced by Y a week later just creates rumors, and results in a lot of "what happened to Z?!?!" when it finally is released.
Patience, my children.
i so want one of them...hehehe
DAM YOU!
At least now we can play NS <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->