Ns, is it really that near a future?
lazygamer
Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 126Members
Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 126Members
Well one thing i'd like to say. NS surely can't take place in the near future. To have the technology to quickly, and efficienty travel far enough and be at war with aliens(and have a chance at winning!<!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> is not "near future" stuff. In addition, to have this stuff commonplace and not just in high tech research labs is another factor. By the time we can do that, we would pretty much have stuff like laser or plasma guns. It's just that we'd still realize that bullets have too many advantages to ever scrap(what they don't realize on startrek <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->).
So what year does NS take place in? I'd guess between 2200AD to 2300AD.
So what year does NS take place in? I'd guess between 2200AD to 2300AD.
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The reason why im not so sure about so early is the "financial infastructure". The only thing that holds technology back is cost. It costs lots and lots to research it, then produce, and then the buyer needs to pay big bucks. NASA would never have the funding to get such technology in 50 years(I think), that's why ya need lots and lots of time or a vast change in the way the "work for profit and technology is uber expensive" infastructure. No matter how much investors you had to make it researchable, it still couden't become commonplace quickly. Of course that's how airplanes once were, but you tend to assume that space travel and spaceships are so much more complicated then air travel. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
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scientists have proven that "inventing" goes faster and faster. It could very well be that we have "lightspeed" engines within 20 yrs.
Sure, it requires the energy output of two suns to power it (not sure if it's the total life of two suns to power it for a second, or just one second output of two suns for one second of output, but either one is bad) but it's possible!
they can now create a reaction of less than 3 seconds be4 it gets unstable
And to Comprox: we just want something to talk about <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
By contrast space travel is proceeding rather slowly. In the 50's everyone thought we'd be living on Mars by now but it hasn't happened.
If NS takes place in 2050, or 2060 or so, I bet the vast majority of the people posting on these boards are gonna be ALIVE then. I say push it back 20 years or so to make sure nobody's gonna be alive and kickin' when the timeframe NS occurs. That way nobody'll be disappointed when 2060 rolls around and we still haven't developed space ships that can travel to one end of the galaxy and back in 30 seconds.
When my dad was my age, he was expecting people to have colonized the moon by 2000. And I thought we'd at least have Back-To-The-Future-style hoverboards by now. : )
Isn't the future disappointing?
Reaver
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I think I'd be inclined to believe you on that. Stuff in labs is so amazing nowdays. Im guessing the problems with plasma and laser is:
1:Overheating
2:Far harder to repair in the field then bullet weapons
3:Ammo storage/weight
4:Far more expensive to make
5:In a survivalist scenario soliders may be able to improvise and create bullet ammo from scratch. Try creating laser or plasma ammo from scratch.
6:Long range accuracy and power. Laser might be cool, but plasma is gas and thus expands. Now a BMG .50 can snipe well over 1000 meters.
7:Wounding effectiveness. Plasma and laser is based on heat, as such it would likely cauterize the wound. Standard bullets at the very least need applied pressure to stop a wound from bleeding(if your lucky). If your wound is cauterized, then your not losing blood, and because your flesh is not shredded by fragments and temporary cavity, the pain factor could very well be less. As such, you could have a big hole in you from a plasma gun and be better off in the short term then a big hole from a shotgun blast.
8:Concealability. Sure the Startrek phaser may be concealable, but a modern day pistol can be very deadly and quite small.
Steampunk in space.... that would rock! :)
I don't think he was bitching at the mod itself, he was making quite a good point on what year if it did, take place and you do make a good point as well
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Yah, some of it might seem a little too advanced, but we don't have force fields around the marines, and personal teleporters letting us jump anywhere.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nah, that's for the sequel NS2.
800 years ago your great great great etc. grandfathers trounced an ancient, malicious, infinitly powerful evil from the greatest depths of the universe.
For all that time, peace has reigned. But now, this ancient evil has returned, ready for venegance on the humans who nearly made them extinct. Now using new technology like enhanced Blinky wannabe jumppacks and dynamic energy re-allocation inertia fields, the marines are back, and the hivemind is going down.
NS2, coming Summer 2005. <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
This device does actually exist and currently still being developed. It is in an <a href="http://www.beyond2000.com/news/dec_00/story_910.html" target="_blank">article at Beyond2000.com</a>.
Now if someone wanted to make Lazer weaponry standard equipment, we would have to be able to make very efficient batteries, or microgenerators, and be able to at least quickly be able to change out a failed component. One way of making a lazer pistol field serviceable, would be to make the pistol out of 3 parts; the shell, the beam generator assembly, and battery. I call it the <b><i>Break-Load Lazer Pistol</i>™</b>. You could carry these relativly small and ruggidized components like you would extra clips of ammo. If something should happen to the beam assembly, you would open it up like you would a single shot shotgun, and it would pop out the broken assembly, you grab a new assembly off your pack, pop it in, close the break, and you're good to go. With this system you could change a battery/microgenerator as easily you could reload a typical semi-auto pistol with a clip. And by the time you can make lethal lazer weapons this small in the first place, you could concievably pull off a weapon like this at the same time with little extra effort.
In reguards to space travel and weaponry, would you rather have something that at the most would cause some minor damage, if at all, to the electrics in your ship, or have the possibility of blowing several hundred small holes through your bulkhead if it was not armored?
Bullet weapons <u><b>are</b></u> however, here to stay, but will probably be joined by energy weaponry in the years to come.
Now for space travel, I think we are probably going to start leaning towards cryostasis in the earlier years of interstellar travel, and then towards faster engines, and then towards wormholes of somekind. But you see the thing about our technologies, is that almost everything is possible in time. If we could produce the equivalent power of 2 suns for warp travel, someone will try it unless something better comes first. I personally beleve that we will probably use devices that create and artificial wormhole between two points and travel along that bridge. We actually could be colonizing on the moon and mars by now, and have a space station under construction right now using materials mined and refined from the asteroid belt. But no... People are worried about costs. Now this is where I really get off topic, but if I remember correctly, reading somewhere that in about 88 years, earth is going to come within 300 miles of hitting a comet. 300 Miles. I would rather have a colony of people elsewhere just in case the comet doesnt miss... Oh well, silly humans.
And you guys are completely missing all of the possibilityies that quantum technologies can open up. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
Hope this makes you guys think outside the Dodecahedron <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
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Except the aliens are just fat senators.
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