Children And Ns

OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
edited February 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Why they shouldnt play</div> Weve all heard it on the news. Video games and violence in them cause kids to go psycho. Er... yea... right... We all know this isnt true, unless the game is everquest <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> . Children should not play NS. Why? Not because of violence, that was the purpose of the first part of this message if youve been reading it, but because they annoy the friggin crap out of me. Too many times I've commanded a game (or had the kid as a commander) where this person who hasnt hit puberty yet is talking to me as if I don't know how to play the game. "Noooo don't research that!" "Drop some turrets! That will stop the skulk rush." Frankly I think parents need to moniter their children, or at least be conscious of the average age of the pool of players in what game their playing. NS would probably have a NC17 or Mature rating if it were for sale, common sense tells you the playerbase will consist of more mature people, and the last thing they want to hear while blowing away aliens or chomping on marine legs is some whiney snot nosed brat that think they know everything, telling everybody what to do, running their mouth over the mic in the game.

Signed your disgruntled neighborhood High School (Graduating in may, oh hell yes) Geek.



For those that don't quite understand what I'm saying and are too lazy to read through the posts, this is a clarification from another post

I still don't like when kids play and act like they know everything about the game. I will admit I don't know everything about the game. The problem comes when they start spamming crap that I'm not doing something right, or start spamming the voice com, which I should clear up, I dont like ANYBODY which does this, regardless of age. Are you young, and have skill? Good for you, don't flame me, I enjoy playing with people that have skill. Are you a teen with a pre-pubescent voice with skill? Good for you, I like people with skill. Are you a senior citizen with a busted hip, bifoculs, and a voice box from 40 years of smoking that has skill? Good for you, I like people with skill. People, regardless of age, spam voice, and act like know-it-alls when they know nothing. It is a proven fact that kids, that is, usually around age ten and down, will act like this more than anyone in any other age group.


And another clarification


I'm saying that you need to recognize that you are a n00b, and instead of trying to lead the game, stop talking, and listen to the people who know what their doing. Take a pointer from them. Why learn to play a game from other n00bs? I don't know about anyone else, but I personally would choose learning from an experienced player rather than a n00b.
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  • RickyGervaisRickyGervais Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12148Members
    lol I know exactly how you feel. Im 22 and I bet most people over 18 cant help but cringe when they hear thier commanders 12 year old cartooney voice over the mic. Even if they are good its a natural reaction in society to instantly discredit someone very young. I mean taking orders off of someone 10 years younger than me who watches CBBC and plays with his Action Man toys when hes not playing NS.

    Its also a scary reminder that im starting to get old <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Video games and violence in them cause kids to go psycho. Er... yea... right... We all know this isnt true, unless the game is everquest <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Everquest causes people to go Syco... er, psycho? A game where someone can sit in front of a computer to pretend to be someone else who's doing something even lazier in-game (<i>*cough*fishing*cough*</i>) than that person is currently doing in real life?

    Yeah, I played EQ for a few months when it first came out, and it was a harmless bit of fun. Well, harmless to everything except my credit card. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JimJim Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9989Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--RickyGervais+Feb 13 2003, 01:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RickyGervais @ Feb 13 2003, 01:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I bet most people over 18 cant help but cringe when they hear thier commanders 12 year old cartooney voice over the mic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    rofl you don't have to be 18 to do that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    I think the problem would be a lack of maturity. There are plenty of us (older gamers) who lack lots of maturity as well, it's just predominant in the age group 8-16. It makes sense, and the best thing to do is try to cope and lead by example, hey?
  • Just_AyaneJust_Ayane Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7317Members
    Uhm, i am 20 but..pardon me saying, who the h*ll are you 2 judge who can and cannot play NS?
    Yes they might be annoying, just ignore them or goto another server, this post makes you no better than the annoying little "children". -_-
  • LeprechaunLeprechaun Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13163Members
    I'd like to point out that not all people under the age of 18 are idiots, just as not all people over the age of 18 are in the least bit intelligent. I won't patronize you with my specific age, suffice to say I'm in the "over" category.

    There's a server my friends and I play at every now and then... can't remember the name right now. At any rate, one of the clan guys who runs the server has a son named Cody. I'd guess Cody's anywhere from 6 to 10 based on his voice. You'd think right off the bat that this would cause lots of problems, wouldn't you? Little kid, plays the game because his daddy likes it, it sounds like a horror story of people building sensory and recycling the base.

    Let me tell you, I've never seen a more effective lerk than Cody. My buddies had played with Cody before, so they knew him. At first, I'll admit, I was skeptical. But I wanted to be decent to the kid, so I didn't say anything when he was going lerk. I just made a little side comment to my guys of "lerk already, huh?" They laughed and told me to wait. Within 10 minutes Cody, along with one of my buds, had completely taken out the Unnamed hive, which the marines had taken as their main outpost. Now I'm not saying Cody could take anyone I know. Cut him some slack, he's a kid. But he <i>is</i> a good NS player, and that's really all that counts, isn't it? I'd rather have Cody on my team than some of the 20+ players I've had any day of the week. Food for thought.
  • PooPoo Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8686Members
    I'm also 20, and I can tell I'm getting old. I complain about how kids these days aren't like I was blah blah blah.

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Just take it with a grain of salt man <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    I could care less if kids played it, but if theres a kid that doesnt know what he's talking about talking to me like I'm a n00b, I get aggrivated, moreso than if a person of age did it. That was the thing I was originally trying to say.
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    The only "...whiny snot nosed brat..." I see here is you Otto.

    I think this thread should be closed.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    Right.. closed because I dare share an opinon other than your own?
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Feb 13 2003, 02:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Feb 13 2003, 02:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I could care less if kids played it, but if theres a kid that doesnt know what he's talking about talking to me like I'm a n00b, I get aggrivated, moreso than if a person of age did it. That was the thing I was originally trying to say. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So for this reason <b>no</b> kids should play any game that you play.

    This sort of <i>immature, selfishness</i> is exactly why this thread should be closed.

    Otto, this forum is for mature minded people who want to talk about NS... don't spread hate cause you can't manage to politely and with maturity tell someone younger then you that you do not need advice and you know how the game works.
  • KillaBiteKillaBite Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9733Members
    OMG has anyone played with this kid called CODY? He's a funny guy because you can't understand what he's saying in his high pitched squeeky voice. I translated for a group of people one day because I was making sense out of what he was saying. Most of the time it was. "Commando... give me HMG and JP and I kill hive". He's funny as hell but shouldn't be playing NS. He's not a team player.
  • Ben128Ben128 Join Date: 2002-06-21 Member: 808Members, Constellation
    I played with Cody also, that little guys was messing stuff up. I have to say that it does not really matter what age you are, its all about having a good time. You can be 50 and still be a wanker.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    edited February 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So for this reason no kids should play any game that you play.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Did I say that no kid should play the same game as me? No I didn't
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Ben128+Feb 13 2003, 07:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ben128 @ Feb 13 2003, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You can be 50 and still be a wanker. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've never quite got this _wanker_ word. What does it mean? Im for some reason in belief that wanking is uh, well the thing that starts with mast...(im not sure if I can say this in the forums, allthough I can't see the harm in it but these moderators here are wild you know <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )

    Ontopic: I don't care about the age of the player as long as he plays right and doesn't mess with the voice com <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DoADrunkMonkeyDoADrunkMonkey Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11902Members
    edited February 2003
    they are just learning throuhg trial and error.

    but it is real anoying if they are so iggnorant to think themselves the greatest and ignore our adive.
    that is! if anyone has tryed helping the new players of NS? or have you all just been ignoring them or stressing em off?

    P.S. me 15, it doesn`t mean i am complete child, so please don`t sterotype me with them.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but it is real anoying if they are so iggnorant to think themselves the greatest and ignore out adive.

    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Thats exactly what I was trying to say
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    Your forgetting another reason they shouldn't play... well, okay, it has be mentioned, but in a different way… the maturity level. I’ve been told I shouldn’t or I can’t say certain things because there’s young kids playing.

    Me: “Holy f--- I told you to get your a-- over to Waste Handling! We’re going to loose the hive!”
    High-pitched whiney voice 1: “Please don’t cuss.”
    Typed: “Yeah, there’s kids playing this.”
    Me: “If you don’t like how I f---ing talk you can leave you stupid s----!”
    High-pitched whiney voice 2: “Don’t swear!”
    Mature voice: “Shut the hell up, kids.”
    Korean kid: “Wachabi chima bidag tichoo!”
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--*Dread*+Feb 13 2003, 02:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (*Dread* @ Feb 13 2003, 02:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Ben128+Feb 13 2003, 07:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ben128 @ Feb 13 2003, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You can be 50 and still be a wanker. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've never quite got this _wanker_ word. What does it mean? Im for some reason in belief that wanking is uh, well the thing that starts with mast...(im not sure if I can say this in the forums, allthough I can't see the harm in it but these moderators here are wild you know <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )

    Ontopic: I don't care about the age of the player as long as he plays right and doesn't mess with the voice com <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I masticate over 1,000 times a day!
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Im 14, your saying i shouldnt play NS? Tough, i dont anymore.

    Children should be able to play it, so what if there voice is high pitched (mine aint, so dont worry about me arguing for my own side) doesnt mean that they cant play, just mute them or ask them to not use the mic, and NS doesnt children people violent, of course if there well aliens that looked like cows with horns and dogs with big teeth who climb walls, maybe children would be violent, untill then they should be able to play it.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    Silent, do you run around talking to people like they have no fcking clue what their doing? My guess is you don't. You arent the kind of person I'm talking about.
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Feb 13 2003, 07:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Feb 13 2003, 07:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I masticate over 1,000 times a day! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OMG! You too!? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    LOL.... he said masticate...

    huh huh huh... huh huh...

    /me slaps self.

    Right. Where was I? Nah, kids can be okay. Just they have to deal with the fact they <b>will</b> be muted if they mic a lot. Because I don't see why my entertainment time should involve my ears bleeding. I love the ones that get all excited, and start to chatter on, it's a case of 'no more red cordial for you, little Mickey™'



    (Add on : /me enjoys the lousy American anti swear filter long enough to call someone a wanker. *Points wildly* YOU! You're one!)
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Yes, that's what wanker means. (I know someone who was cursed with that last name BTW.)

    As for swearing, it's the 14 year old kids who swear the most.
  • babygirlbabygirl Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12378Members
    I think people are taking Otto way too literally *chuckles*

    I know the kind of players he's talking about. We had one of them on CiS a while ago, and he kept hogging the voice comm. After a while, he thought it was funny to say (during some crucial time in the game): "COMMANDER, CAN I SIT ON YOUR LAP? QUICK, YES OR NO?" He wouldn't say it once, no. If he said it just once, it would have been amusing and tolerable. About ten minutes and a hundred repetitions later, our comm, along with half the marine team, muted him. He spent the rest of the game still talking as though they could hear him, asking for grenade launchers and jetpacks and health every 30 seconds... and also repeating his "joke".

    I guess it's all that male testosterone that's raging through your bodies during middle school, or something. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MercsDragonMercsDragon Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6963Members
    I don't really care if a kid is playing. If they are immature and stuff I just vote kick them, if they come back and continue I get the admins to ban them. But I've played with quite a few kids who listened to the comm better than most of the older players.
  • LinkLink Join Date: 2002-10-16 Member: 1510Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--RickyGervais+Feb 13 2003, 06:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RickyGervais @ Feb 13 2003, 06:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...plays with his Action Man toys when hes not playing NS... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OI!!! Don't dis teh acshun man.

    Theres nothing wrong with action man.

    lol
  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    OLD FOGIES!! UNITE!!!! (read the sig <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )


    sorry, little plug. anyhoo, this topic really strikes close to home. and i, like otto, had the same sentiments. however, i've played with far too many fantastic and mature younger players (yeah i'm talking to you Tiio <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ), to really hold the line.


    i'm guessing what otto is sayin is:
    Wankers suck
    Wankers who have really high pitched voices suck more


    and whoever is talking about masticate. i hope you masticate or you will be
    1) taking your food in fluid form
    2) starving



    Cheers
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I have nothing against young people playing NS, assuming they are mature enough to comprehend the game (and not so young that they shouldn't be playing violent games - though NS isn't as bad as, say, Counterstrike in that respect). I have no problem with people who don't know how to play (yet) playing NS, provided they are willing and able to learn.

    I have a big problem with immature people playing NS. People who refuse to learn, or are excessively intolerant of insignificant little annoyances that a more accepting person would shrug at, get over, and move past.
  • HammerHammer Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5036Members
    We've had our share of kids on the server, we always give them a chance. Why should we make fun of them if they're 9 years old? They just want to play the game and have fun, us "mature adults" telling them to get lost is foolish and I don't generally stand for it when it occurs on the server.
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