Are there left handed models?

LefthanderLefthander Join Date: 2002-05-07 Member: 587Members
<div class="IPBDescription">For marines</div>Halo and a smile question:
I want to know if there are any left handed weapon/marine models. I like it because in real life I'm lefthanded (see also my nick)

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Lefthander+May 09 2002,06:23--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Lefthander @ May 09 2002,06:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Halo and a smile question:<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    huh? and half life comes standard with left hand models; i see no reason why it wouldnt be in NS.
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Actually... I believe CS has been the only mod that has let you switch hands. I'm not sure what handed the models are, because I'm not sure of the difference between how a left/right handed person would fire. I'm right-handed, but I've been told I fire weapons left handed. Something about how my eyes work that left-handed comes more naturally to me.
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    they're right-handed models. You can tell this easily because they're on the right side of the screen.
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    See, IMO, that would make them left handed models... makes sense to me for a right-handed person to hold gun with right hand, and pull trigger with left.
  • LazarusLazarus Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 122Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
    my brother is lefthanded and when he fires from a shotgun he has the gun on the right side.
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    it's right handed if you pull the trigger with your right hand. for emphasis:
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Alright... this is my last comment on this, because it's useless... but I still say that looks left-handed to me. Your dominant hand feels more natural on the gun's stock... not the trigger.
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Well, if they do add it, it would not be till later releases (same as CS), as it is more a visual extra, and doesn't add to gameplay/quality of the mod in any major way.
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Spyder Monkey+May 09 2002,09:55--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Spyder Monkey @ May 09 2002,09:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Alright... this is my last comment on this, because it's useless... but I still say that looks left-handed to me. Your dominant hand feels more natural on the gun's stock... not the trigger.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Doggone Air Force... Let the USMC set you straight: the model is shooting right-handed, because the weapon is oriented on the right side of the body, and triggered with the right hand. Those are the only criteria (even for pistols).
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Spidey, think of a pistol; your dominant hand will be on the grip, on the trigger.

    Personally, I also would love to see lefty models.  I always play lefty when I have the option; have since Q2.
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I agree... but carrying a pistol and a rifle are two totally different balls of wax.
  • Shuvit_ViperShuvit_Viper Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 62Members
    it wouldnt be so hard to make other hand models? its just mirroring the model that is already around. I think its easy.
  • GraheimGraheim Join Date: 2002-04-02 Member: 375Members
    You could just mirror the image, but it would assume that (for the LMG at least) that the Marines have a version for lefties and a version for righties.  Righties LMG has magazine protruding on the left, Lefties LMG has magazine protruding on the right.  Most militaries don't bother with that.

    I've fired many weapons and seen many fired by other people (USMC yut, yut! ) and very few people fire a rifle from their left shoulder.  For one thing, most rifles aren't made to be fired that way so if you put it in your left shoulder you end up eating hot brass every time you shoot.  Some rifles (like the M16A2) have features designed to prevent this, but their not nearly as realiable as just keeping the weapon in your right shoulder to begin with.  The only time I personally (and anyone else I know) have used a lefthanded rifle stance is if I'm in the right side of a formation (such as a wedge or staggered column) which dictates that I HAVE TO shoot to the right.  Then I switch it so I don't risk flagging my buddies.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <i>Note to self: don't join the military, they'll make you eat hot brass.</i> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

    It's a shame, really... I'm pretty much useless in a right-handed situation.  It's laughable how left-handed I am.

    Then again, in many sports I was taught right-handed, and play right handed - hockey, golf, soccer, batting in baseball, etc.  But tennis, throwing, volleyball, I'm still a lefty.  Go fig.
  • RhoadsToNowhereRhoadsToNowhere i r 8 Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 33Members
    Even though I'm left-handed myself, I dunno how much having left-handed models would add to the game, well besides maybe some file space.  I'm not sure if there's a simple way to be able to get left-handed models besides just having mirrored copies of every weapon, although I hear CS 1.4 now does the mirroring of the v_ models (the ones you see yourself carrying) through code instead of having copies.

    Oddly enough, although I've never fired a gun, holding something like a rifle or an SMG would probably feel more natural in a right-handed stance than a left-handed stance.  It's exactly the same when I play guitar, my left hand likes it better on the fretboard.
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oddly enough, although I've never fired a gun...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    really? not even a toy like a super-soaker? wow.
  • RhoadsToNowhereRhoadsToNowhere i r 8 Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 33Members
    I meant a <i>real</i> gun.  <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
  • Shuvit_ViperShuvit_Viper Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 62Members
    try to play cs with left handed models for once... or with right handed if you normally play left handed. It really does not feel good. So, just for gameplay you must include left handed models, because otherwise it will be an annoyance to some people... and its not really hard to do i think..(cs and hl and all mods do it)...
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    CS is the only mod I've ever seen do that. I know that some mods use different handed models for some weapons, but you can't change that anywhere... maybe I wasn't just looking hard enough for it?

    At any rate, I don't see any pressing -need- to have this included. I'm sure you will just get used to whatever hand your weapon comes up in, but that's just MHO.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    For the record - it's not the model that bugs me, so much as the appearance on the HUD.  I'd much prefer to have my gun on the left side of the screen.  Maybe that's just me.

    /me fondly remembers his first ever multi-command script (in Q2)... changed from left-handed to centered when I pressed "fire," then back to lefty when I let go.
  • kID-IcaruskID-Icarus Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 533Members
    The Good ole days of quake 2

    I remember a script similar to that. But i got too used to just using left handed alone. Switching back and forth so you wouldn't have to adjust your aiming and then aving a good ole rail gun appear on your left side. w00t

    Someone needs to make "The Edge" map of Quake2 for either HL DM or Quake 3, or even Counter Strike
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Warehouse (Q2DM8) was my favorite... I remember the first time I played Lithium with my brother - I grappled up through the skylight to the roof, sat there with a railgun, and probably sniped his @$$ about 10 times before he figured out where I was.  <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
  • Hida_TsuzuaHida_Tsuzua Lamarck&#39;s Heir Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 79Members, NS1 Playtester
    We've talked about left-handed marines, but what about left-handed aliens?  I mean Bob would have a dominant limb out of his four!
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    It makes alot more sense if you're right handed to have the right index finger on the trigger.  It's your dominant hand, so you're less apt to yank or jerk the trigger.  Like the difference between throwing with your dominant and non-dominant hand.  

    For most people, pulling the trigger with your non-dominant hand would not turn out well, and you'd be spraying shots all over the place.  The non-dominant hand is given the just as important job of steadying the rifle by holding the stock.  The dominant hand should not be used for anything but trigger squeeze.  But, it's true, the dominant hand SHOULD be the right <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
  • HicksHicks Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 418Members
    Being right-handed, I fire all my weapons with my right hand on the trigger. The reason is that the dominate (trigger) hand controls the finer points of aiming. This allows for a more accurate shot.
  • Bacon_BitsBacon_Bits Join Date: 2002-02-05 Member: 167Members
    I don't know why but with water pistols and game guns I always use my middle finger to pull the trigger not my index finger...odd habit I've been trying to break myself of
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