Ns Game Servers $2 Per Player

masterswordmanmasterswordman Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11303Members
<div class="IPBDescription">ON COGENT</div> Just pointing stuff out, cogent is not good for running game servers. Sure at low usage times it's ping is 78, so your game server ping will be about 200 counting the clients and the sever lag. AND THATS FOR THE BASIC's.

I can get a cogent connection 1 Mbps for $60 a month. Or 10 Mbps and a free dedicated server for under $400 from rackshack. Simply put, if you have a major website, and need lots of bandwith, and are gonna be streaming. COGENT is for you.

If you are gonna be hosting gaming servers consider Verio, it's $125 a month, but the ping from my computer is 28, that's a server that will compete with Griffen Run. Yes I could run a cheap servers like those ace guys, on cogent.

Also notice that the Connections most server providers list is the *FACILITY* connections, not theirs, so beware guys.

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  • BytorBytor Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9323Members
    Many of the companies that advertise game servers are using managed hosting or colocation services. In these cases, they most certainly do use the same connection as the hosting facility, since their servers are IN that hosting facility.

    And you can get a rackshack server for $99, not $400. And that includes 400 gigs per month of transfer, which is roughly equivalent to saturating a full megabit for a full month, 24/7, which is a lot more than most game servers will use. It's a hell of a deal. I have one myself. Not sure what their bandwidth is burstable to, but I'd imagine the 100 megabit link from my server to the switch/router is probably the slowest link.

    The only thing about rackshack is, you have to manage the entire server yourself. Nobody is going to set up the NS server for you. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • masterswordmanmasterswordman Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11303Members
    You are so annoying I said

    "Or 10 Mbps and a free dedicated server for under $400 from rackshack"

    10 Mbps of unmetered transfer costs $400 at rack shack.

    DAMN.
  • BytorBytor Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9323Members
    Yes, and I didn't say you are incorrect in what you get for $400 ... I simply offered an alternative to get a fully game server capable machine from the same provider for 1/4th of the price. Nobody needs 10 megabits for a single game server.

    Mainly I replied to correct your "warning" about connections. No need for you to spread uncertainty and doubt about what others are offering here. They're providing a needed service for the NS game community. If they are saying they are hosting their servers at some data center with fast pipes, when they are really just on some fractional T1 in their basement, that would be a different story, but I have yet to see such an example, and you certainly haven't pointed any out that I know of.
  • death1death1 Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8920Members
    rackshack has 10mbps unmetered and 100mbps metered plans

    there'd be no point in paying 400/mo for 1 server on a 10mbps connection as you'd never user over 512kbps of it (runnining one 20 player server)

    Even with their $100/mo box (a celery 1.something) its gonna cost you $5+ per slot

    www.rackshack.net

    -d$
  • BytorBytor Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9323Members
    20 players only uses 512kb? Really? I have a 1.5 megabit SDSL line at my company (started a small wireless ISP in my area) that is barely ever used ... I should put a public NS server on it. I have a box at RackShack, but I host many commercial web sites on it so I keep a password on the NS server so as to keep the CPU load down.
  • masterswordmanmasterswordman Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11303Members
    So you have a private server, first of I do appoligize I'll let othres diss other providers. But the unmetered ones at rackshack are cogent.
  • death1death1 Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8920Members
    edited February 2003
    yes, the 10mbps is cogent at rackshack... my point is that you'd never ever put an NS server up on one of those boxes. It's only 1 server for that unmetered bandwidth and you'll be hard pressed to get even 24 player slots goin on it.

    that's all... not dissin' anyone here, i've got two RS boxes... one for NS and one for everything else

    my 20 player box uses a tiny fraction of the network and bandwidth provision:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->20 players will use between 40 and 60k/sec in bandwitch (320kbps ~ 480kbps); mostly, its near the 40k/sec mark with some spikes into the 50s.

    <a href='http://tempest.sc/dan/ns20/network.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://tempest.sc/dan/ns20/network1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'></a><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    -d$
  • BytorBytor Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9323Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--death$+Feb 9 2003, 01:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (death$ @ Feb 9 2003, 01:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yes, the 10mbps is cogent at rackshack... my point is that you'd never ever put an NS server up on one of those boxes. It's only 1 server for that unmetered bandwidth and you'll be hard pressed to get even 24 player slots goin on it.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm confused by this statement. Are you saying you wouldn't run an NS server on a 10 megabit unmetered connection? If that's what you're saying, why? And what kind of connection are you buying from RS for your NS server? You sound like you have a clue, so either I'm missing something your you typoed that statement. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Nice graph ... is that RRDTool?
  • death1death1 Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8920Members
    it is in fact rrdt... and, no, i wouldnt pay $400/mo for a 20 man NS server.

    Both my NS server (an amd1700xp) and webbox (celery 1.3) are on 100mpbs connections and 'limited' to 400gb of traffic each.

    For the 20 player NS server, here is some cumulative bandwidth usage:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Total Out 4.29 Gb Total In  3.65 Gb 
    Total (In + Out) Bandwidth: 7.93 Gb 
    Todays Usage 314.70 Mb 
    Daily Average for Current Month 905.00 Mb 
    Your Monthly Bandwidth Quota is: 400 Gb 
    You have used <b>1.98%</b> of your allowed Bandwidth 
    Last Updated: 2/9/03 3:48:53 AM 
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The server's not full but 4 or 5 hours a day but even if you quadruple the bw usage, it would still fall way short of 400gb.

    Bandwidth's not the issue with running a game server. It'd be different if you had 20 boxes hooked up to the one 10mbps connection but as it is, its a single celeron 1.3ghz box that might be good for 16 player slots. ($400/16 = $25/slot).

    I guess this may be a little off topic from the original post...

    -d$
  • BytorBytor Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9323Members
    Okay, gotcha. The way you worded it originally it sounded like you didn't think a 10 megabit line would support 20 players. That's what confused me.

    I have a box similar to one of yours at RackShack, it's a 1U Compaq P4 2GHz, and I have the same 400GB traffic limit that most have. I don't run a public NS server on it because I use the box for commercial site hosting. However I am thinking about running a public NS server on a 1.4 megabit SDSL line I have locally, so it's good to see the traffic numbers for your server.

    Thanks for the clarification.
  • BrutusBrutus Join Date: 2002-10-20 Member: 1555Members
    Here are the figures for my 16 player server from Racshack. It is always full, except between 4am - 6am PST.


    Total In (Gigs) 86.11
    Total Out (Gigs) 75.91
    Total (Gigs) 162.02

    This is over a 1 month period.
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