Balance

eisbaer

<div class="IPBDescription">Do the creators even play this game?</div> I've been playing NS since it came out and since then it has been badly balanced one way or another. Every patch i read the aliens getting more and more powerful, and the mariens getting weaker and weaker. As is, a single <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> can take out an entire marine base with 4 turrets in a box formation around a turret fac and 3 marines. The <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> can kill the 3 <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->'s and hide inside the <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> factory without taking damage, destroy it, and proceed to take down the <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo-->'s. It's crazy. And that's 1 hive. When they go 2 hives the fades are so strong, fast, and tough that they can siege singly an entire base. That means that the alien team, coming from behind with 2 hives, can siege down the entire map in optimal conditions. I don't know if my teams just suck, but i'm pretty confident in the people i play with. Ii've actually quit playing my favorite new game because it's so terribly balanced.

Silver_Fox

no, they dont play.

They just assume everyone is smart enough to balance the game them selves and only take "advice" from the "community" to fix the balance.

Smoke_Nova

I don't know what the hell your talking about, Fades being able to siege a base. I had an hour and a half long battle on (Viaduct, Cargo, Silo) in which on average we lost Cargo 3 times per half-hour and 2 waves of 3 fades would attack an average of once every hour. It was a true battle but we won in the end.

Commanders make or break the marines. Gorges make or break the aliens.

It's also all on a winning attitude. If you think your gonna win you just might pull that next to impossible win.

and yes, the Dev's do play. I believe someone has a sig

RandomTard: Who built sens first?
RandomPerson: Flayra
RandomTard: OMG Flayra, why'd u build sensory?
Flayra The Almighty: cuz it's my game.

And Flayra constantly trolls the forums. The Almighty has 4500 forum posts.

Stoneburg

<!--QuoteBegin--eisbaer+Feb 2 2003, 03:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eisbaer @ Feb 2 2003, 03:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As is, a single <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> can take out an entire marine base with 4 turrets in a box formation around a turret fac and 3 marines. The <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> can kill the 3 <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->'s and hide inside the <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> factory without taking damage, destroy it, and proceed to take down the <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo-->'s. It's crazy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes... that is... crazy.

As must the Marines be, to let the skulk kill them 1 - 3.

As must the COM be who places the TF and 4 T's so the skulk can chew them without getting killed.

Giot

<!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Feb 2 2003, 03:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Feb 2 2003, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> RandomTard: Who built sens first?
RandomPerson: Flayra
RandomTard: OMG Flayra, why'd u build sensory?
Flayra The Almighty: cuz it's my game.

And Flayra constantly trolls the forums.  The Almighty has 4500 forum posts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
^^^ HAHAHAHAHAH funny as hell, gg flayra

... I got about 4 server IP's from flayra today when I said all the ones on my list were either empty or full. Please do not say that someone does not play a game simply because updates dont come fast enough for you. If you are sick of waiting for balance, code your own video game and you will find out how hard it is to find a perfect balance in a fps/rts

Vecdran

Maybe you should stop playing on servers where the marines don't know what they're doing? Hmmm?

joev

Yet another thread claiming balance issues when it's player knowledge (or lack of it) that's at fault.

*CLUNK*

joev.