Results Of The Euro-american Scrim
Eats
Join Date: 2002-10-24 Member: 1582Members
Join Date: 2002-10-24 Member: 1582Members
I figured this should go here since defcon went off on how us noobs in america can't play ns for anything and all rip off the euro league clanbase(which we heard of for the first time less then a week ago)
I'm not trying to start a flame war I just think its only fair to show the results of the match here since basically a euro came here and called us out.
The demos of the scrim with some details are here: www.shambler.net
Anyway sYn(American clan) beat NG(European clan, #1 in clanbase) in a well played match by both sides. I'm not here to do anything but deliver the results. To say either the euro clans suck or the american clans suck would be a lie. They are both good and neither of them are ripping off each other's strats. I think these cross country scrims are really cool and we should do more in the future.
Addendum: The euro who called us out is in neither NG nor DW(#2 clan in clanbase). In fact I don't think he's in a competing clan at all right now.
I'm not trying to start a flame war I just think its only fair to show the results of the match here since basically a euro came here and called us out.
The demos of the scrim with some details are here: www.shambler.net
Anyway sYn(American clan) beat NG(European clan, #1 in clanbase) in a well played match by both sides. I'm not here to do anything but deliver the results. To say either the euro clans suck or the american clans suck would be a lie. They are both good and neither of them are ripping off each other's strats. I think these cross country scrims are really cool and we should do more in the future.
Addendum: The euro who called us out is in neither NG nor DW(#2 clan in clanbase). In fact I don't think he's in a competing clan at all right now.
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GG NG we will rematch sometime.
Hopefully DW will realise NG's obvious mistakes as marine and perform a little better.
BTW it's certainly amusing how sYn's attitude changes from IRC to the forums...
I guess you have time to think what you say. But then I guess you don't like it when I insult those 20 constant whining kids in your channel spouting crap at me, aye?
As for you rebo, just because log is next to useless in the NS and TFC world doesn't mean you have to keep spouting bs. Sure I like NS, but I don't like newbies that don't attempt to learn, and just end up making a mess of the game.
As a matter of fact, I do have credibility in the 'europe' ns scene, the fact 2 blueyonder admins (admins of those semi-decent UK servers) are highly considering joining my clan, along with a warserver admin, you can't say much, log are hardly the respectable tfc clan *cough*
Regardless, the post is here... so let's not make personal attacks, eh? Comments on the match are fine, and I hope that was Eats' intention by posting the results. It's only a game, so let's keep it at that.
Edit: Never mind I tried again 10 minutes later and its working fine.
Try
<a href='http://www.blindfury.co.uk/defcon/synvsng.zip' target='_blank'>http://www.blindfury.co.uk/defcon/synvsng.zip</a>
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BTW it's certainly amusing how sYn's attitude changes from IRC to the forums...
I guess you have time to think what you say. But then I guess you don't like it when I insult those 20 constant whining kids in your channel spouting crap at me, aye?
As for you rebo, just because log is next to useless in the NS and TFC world doesn't mean you have to keep spouting bs. Sure I like NS, but I don't like newbies that don't attempt to learn, and just end up making a mess of the game.
As a matter of fact, I do have credibility in the 'europe' ns scene, the fact 2 blueyonder admins (admins of those semi-decent UK servers) are highly considering joining my clan, along with a warserver admin, you can't say much, log are hardly the respectable tfc clan *cough*
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Keep the hate comming man, lets see the real Defcon <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Not that I feel the need to justify my clan to you or anyone, I would harldy consider a clan that has achieved UKTFCL Season10 div 1 undefeated champs UKTFCL Season7 div2 undefeated champs WPTFCL season7 div 2 champs and UKTFCLCUP Season 10 Semi-Finalists as next to useless.<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> We play (both NS and TFC) for fun, challange, and mutual respect for our opponents and we are happy with that.
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funny, cause ng.se beat the best european clan by using cheats, namy the jetpack and r_drawview. but syn knew about this and had it blocked on their server
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Sorry what is the Jetpack cheat? Im aware of the fps bug, but use of the JP is hardly a cheat?
NG players demonstrated great <i>individual</i> skills, they were great shots and good evasive bunny hoppers.
But damn it was frustrating to keep watching NG split off and go on their own with no apparent plan. Even when they did work together it was kind of half-assed (ie. Sewer Hive Rush). They showed better teamplay as aliens then as marines but overall they didn't seem to be displaying any real teamwork or team strategy at all.
By the last match sYn was playing with NG. *LoL* There is no alien strategy that I know of that requires >6 Resource Towers before the 2nd Hive.
EDiT: Just wanted to add the standard disclaimer. A clan is better then another clan becuase of skill and teamwork, not nationality. sYn outplayed NG because they had superior teamplay and tactics, not because they are North American.
Agreed, well flayra has to do something about them anyway.
Actually we've heard of NG's skill with the jp so comp core wasen't too favorable since it's pretty easy to kill with jps compared to maintnance or eclipse.
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lol, you cant shoot through the grate..wtf
We used lerks on caged, which was 1.03
Umm.. Vent hive on caged is pretty much the best hive you could ever ask for in NS, and NG had it.. stop making excuses.
As apposed to say when I go to my favourite UK server at a specific time happy in the knowledge it won't be full of newbs.
As for the BY servers being decent, errrr they're over-loaded and frankly the pings are nothing special, AND they put a password on yet are STILL full of newbs.
BlueGhost
[sarcasm]Brothers, sisters, come together! Can't we once join hands and realize that they <i>all</i> suck?[/sarcasm]
Bias? I think so.
stop making excuses.
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Explain to me how i'm making excuses? I have no need to make excuse I am biased neither to a NA clan or Euro clan. I commended your clan on great play, you won due to superior tactics great aim and good co-ordination. I was meerly saying scrims cannot be 100% even until either aliens start in same hive or aliens choose which hive they start in.
The "War on America article" was totally out of bounds though, it's the kind of crappy articles you see in todays newspappers. Writing an article based on one European players perspective is just stupid, then calling it the "general European NS players perspective" is even more dumb. This only meaning I could find in this article was "American NS players rule and European suck, since sYn beat NG this has been confirmed. You suck guys, **** Europe". If a person claims to be writing articles for a serious fansite he should remain serious in his writing aswell. Write something worthwhile instead of junk that will only entertain peoples lust for petty disputes.
(by the way, I'm American. I just have a sense of humor. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> )