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Haha no clicks, missile command is the most played custom map in the last week, and you still say no clicks.
I'd advise you to actually open your eyes before opening your mouth, because even if you can't enjoy playing a map because it doesn't meet your stringent ego requirements, most everyone else can.
It would appear the demand for these larger maps are larger than i had at first imagined, quite interesting how in some cases effort into a map can not result in enjoyment as shown here, where people would rather a play a map that i'd guess took you no longer than an hour or so to make then an official NS map. Makes you wonder if putting a lot of effort into maps to creat an atompsphere is worth it.
<!--QuoteBegin--^Requiem^+Jan 27 2003, 03:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (^Requiem^ @ Jan 27 2003, 03:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> because even if you can't enjoy playing a map because it doesn't meet your stringent ego requirements, most everyone else can. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> A slight exaggeration there?
I for one would like to join teams with Mr.Ben in this one. It'll be a cold day in hell when I find myself playing a killbox for NS. However, it has nothing to do with my ego. It has lots to do with killboxes being in my opinion stupid and more geared towards other games than NS.
I have no problem with you making a killbox for NS though. The result is in my opinion the worst map I've seen for NS so far, but if there are people who like it, it's all well and good.
I'd say most everyone like to play their NS in the way Mr.Ben does. However, that has nothing to do with some of the same people liking killboxes. Missilecommand isn't a Natural Selection map and therefore it doesn't have anything to do with serious NS maps. Missilecommand plays under NS, it looks like NS, but it isn't NS. I see no problem here.
However, I would like to point out that each server playing missilecommand is a server that doesn't play those maps devs and the majority of people feel NS is truly about. If there is a reason why there shouldn't be killboxes for NS, this would be it.
Get over yourself. I am going to say this one last time: I beleive in having fun. NS is a lot of fun the "normal" way, in fact its the most fun, but there are times when you are frustrated with the regular game, be it imbalance, cheaters, idiots, or all of the above or even something else. This is the map for those kinds of times.
And also, i laugh at your saying this is the worst map ever for NS simply because you want some ammunition for flaming in this thread. Its so obviously not true I won't even begin to prove you wrong.
All the clicks are for the people who running around a large box with nothing in our for. Incase you noticed i said, if you get a pic, there will no pics, unless that is yoru thing, give or take a few words. So obviously it is a few peoples things. I just wanted him to be aware that before he downloaded a map, or waited for screens he was aware he was just going to see a big box.
"I'd advise you to actually open your eyes before opening your mouth, because even if you can't enjoy playing a map because it doesn't meet your stringent ego requirements, most everyone else can. "
Why? Where did i say that no-one can have fun on that? Where does my ego come into it? I simply said, if that is yoru thing, and just because running around a large box is not my thing, does not mean that my ego has stringent requirements.
I think you're taking my disliking for running around boxes as me saying hey dude your map is total **** you should be shot. As such i've only opened your map and spent a bit of time laughing at the ability to build things quickly, and i was actually annoyed when turrets didn't go up that fast earliar.
This map could make for interesting gameplay in a weird sense, but it will boil down to theopening seconds. If the marines run to the corners and get there quickly no skulk is getting down abd before long its turret farming.
If skulks get a few kills at the beginning and disrupt marines they wil be dsitrutbed for a while as it will literally rain skulks.
In my opinion it is the worst ns map ever constructed and released to my knowledge, you are in no place to tell me my opinion is wrong, and if you've noticed i've not said your opinion is wrong and that this should not be aloud, and should be shunned.
If you wis to continue this, i think it should be in a pm, as we've already taken this way off topic and there is no need to bug down the forum with this.
And btw, if you run a linux server, make sure to NOT USE THE LADDERS. For some reason linux servers screw up my ladders and randomly teleport people to their deaths. Sorry, I can't fix it, its an issue with linux server.
And as i see flayra's reading this thread, is there any chance of telling us why res nozzles are pretty broken in 1.04 bud? Its not just my maps, apparently all custom maps are having trouble now.
And this is in no way harming the NS community. It is a chance to get away from long, drawn out, borring-as-hell games that have been played hundreds of times in all one way. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
its funny, all these mappers, sitting flameing a mapping thread, about a map made by a mapper whos fist map andromeda was more impressive then well, the people flameing this map dont realy have anything to show, so? why dont u go make something u enjoy? and play it on yourserver, with yourself and the 2 other people that agree with you, ben and mouse uve been mapping for how long now? this is his what? 3/4 th map hes made / in the process of makeing , first time hes ever mapped, and u have ..... what to show, screen shots? go read some more tutorials and try to fathom how to d0 something that could be slightly impressive, or sit and flame on like uve got a pair, which u dont
requiem, i have little to say to ya, cuz u already know my pov. and t0 map makers with tallent, and who read this and enjoy makeing maps keep up the good work, every player in the ns community may not love your maps, but hey each step gets you closer to perfection, cant wait to see what you guys come up with next
This is kind of sad..I've been visiting the forums for a long time and this thread has finally inspired me to make my first post. After reading this before you bother wasting time writing a reply, I am not going to read it, I just want to say that I agree with the others who hate this kind of map and I can't believe you had the balls to post it. Take a look at CS, this is the future that is glimpsed by the other people who are "flaming" you here, there are probably millions of CS maps and a good percent of those are these killbox maps that you find so entertaining. I'd been following your posts and maps and I was beginning to be impressed but I have to agree with Mouse, I don't have any respect for you now (which isn't so bad because I'm not really important <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->). It's not so much that you made a map like this but if its for this select few that were 'begging' you for it why post it on the forums? After being barraged with all this criticism you have the audacity to defend such a pointless map which amazes the hell out of me. As for one map ruining NS, it'll never be a direct result but any n00b that thinks your map is cool could easily make their own without much effort or skill, I hope it never comes to the point where there are as many of these kinds of maps as there are in CS.
Of course I'm defending it, its a lot of fun, and even tho any noob can make a killbox, it takes some degree of skill to make a FUN killbox. Besides, it takes all kinds, and if you don't like it, don't play it. I didn't run over your children or wage war on your country, I didn't persecute your people, shoot your dog, attack your sexuality, steal your car, or cause that athletes foot you're suffering from, so give up trying to shoot me down, the more you **** me off the more maps like this Im gonna make. If nothing more than to get your narrow minded arse angry again.
Thanks for defending me and the map, those of you who have a brain and a sense of logic in your skull.
LMFAO! Don't even worry about them Req. Wouldn't even respond to them if I were you. Hell, I feel like downloading this map now that I've read this stuff! "Oh look at me! I'm ruining NS by playing this map too!" LMFAO! Hey, guess what? I farted, and now alllllllllllllllllllll the air in the world is RUINED! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Knowledge: I do not neeed to prove anything to you about my mapping skill, cause of your comments which where well out of place. I simple raised my opinion and took care not to flame and done it in a well mannered way. Your response has annoyed me, with it's impressive level of just plain out right rudeness and i do not feel the need to prove myself, to you, or requiem.
KungFuSquirrelBasher of MuttonsJoin Date: 2002-01-26Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
edited February 2003
<!--QuoteBegin--^Requiem^+Feb 1 2003, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (^Requiem^ @ Feb 1 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thanks for defending me and the map, those of you who have a brain and a sense of logic in your skull. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Intelligence and logic have nothing to do with personal preference over levels.
I will never download nor play it; nor do I respect any levels of this gameplay type. That is my opinion; you are all welcome to yours - but I don't take kindly to being lumped into a supposed group of brainless illogic folk just because I have my own opinion.
Your responses here have also showed a level of integrity far lower than that of the person you love to jump on so much. Congratulations.
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Holy hell....
I mean, seriously... I can't beleive this. To start with Mouse makes an incredibly valid point about NS <b>not being about anything to do with the "killbox" mentality at all</b> and recieves a mass of "omg yuo are so rong u whiner".
And besides, why make a killbox map of NS in the first place? I mean... <b>what</b> on earth do you expect it to achieve besides flames?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thanks for defending me and the map, those of you who have a brain and a sense of logic in your skull.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Would that be the same brain and sense of logic that takes an intelligent, skill and strategy based game such as NS and attempts to turn it into a mass of nonsensical death and gibs?
I said nothing about people who dislike the map, I said those who flame claiming its the end of NS and "all gimmick maps are the devil" should get a life. Thats all. KFS I dont care if you like the map or not, if you don't then do not play it, you have a right to your opinion. Just don't pretend to think its the end of NS or that I am hitler for making a map you don't agree with, as many others have done.
As I feel NS is a different mod altogether, and I feel that if you want to play a killbox style map, fine. All mods have them pretty much. IMO I don't like the killbox scenario for this MOD. That does not mean it is not a fun map to play. It also does not mean it should not exist.
I stand by Req 100% for making it and he has every right to distribute it where it can be hosted and obtained. I am sure he knew fully that the maps release would bring friends and flames to the board. so you are really not surprising him.
I will play Killbox on HL or the Opposing force version any day. When I play NS I am going for a different feel and gameplay. so I probably won't play it by choice. I will however download it and if i am on a server that runs it... then Iwill play. maybe it would be nice for a change of pace after long hours of stalemates just to get in some fun. versus changing mods/games just to get to that fun.
open your minds a little and don't force yourself to get upset over such a trivial situation.
Customizers do things to suit their own tastes and maybe even share... Afterall, that's all a dev team is really, right?
to each his own...
no flames are necessary... really it's just a game - it's just a map, play it or don't - love it or leave it.
I could not have said it better myself. The reason the subtopic of this thread is "Flame me here!" is because I know enough about people on this board to know that any new ideas or differing opinions are going to be attacked no matter who or where they come from by at least a minority of the forum populace.
If you hate me for making this kind of map, then I hope you're able to sleep at night knowing just how small of a person you are. If you hate this MAP, thats your choice and I fully support you, this kind of map is not for everyone.
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i for my part will never download that map or play any map of that style. Its but hey, i mean there are many out there that need such bad maps. I saw hundreds of 13 year old counter strike players playing mansion and awp_hunt and other stupid maps like a car map over and over again and they just run 2 meters and then killed each other and that was fun for them. because of that i LOVE you requiem, you gave a home to the brainless players and now i can play the official maps without those kiddies and i have fun, they have also fun, but on another server.. all are happy.
and there is no need of skill in those maps
and for flames of my map, there is a tread, please flame it
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Unless large boxes do it for you.
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no longer working on it.
oh ok.
theres a small catoon like glass of water missing down the jump-pod. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'd advise you to actually open your eyes before opening your mouth, because even if you can't enjoy playing a map because it doesn't meet your stringent ego requirements, most everyone else can.
Isn't that what this map is?
A slight exaggeration there?
I for one would like to join teams with Mr.Ben in this one. It'll be a cold day in hell when I find myself playing a killbox for NS. However, it has nothing to do with my ego. It has lots to do with killboxes being in my opinion stupid and more geared towards other games than NS.
I have no problem with you making a killbox for NS though. The result is in my opinion the worst map I've seen for NS so far, but if there are people who like it, it's all well and good.
I'd say most everyone like to play their NS in the way Mr.Ben does. However, that has nothing to do with some of the same people liking killboxes. Missilecommand isn't a Natural Selection map and therefore it doesn't have anything to do with serious NS maps. Missilecommand plays under NS, it looks like NS, but it isn't NS. I see no problem here.
However, I would like to point out that each server playing missilecommand is a server that doesn't play those maps devs and the majority of people feel NS is truly about. If there is a reason why there shouldn't be killboxes for NS, this would be it.
And also, i laugh at your saying this is the worst map ever for NS simply because you want some ammunition for flaming in this thread. Its so obviously not true I won't even begin to prove you wrong.
"I'd advise you to actually open your eyes before opening your mouth, because even if you can't enjoy playing a map because it doesn't meet your stringent ego requirements, most everyone else can. "
Why? Where did i say that no-one can have fun on that? Where does my ego come into it? I simply said, if that is yoru thing, and just because running around a large box is not my thing, does not mean that my ego has stringent requirements.
I think you're taking my disliking for running around boxes as me saying hey dude your map is total **** you should be shot. As such i've only opened your map and spent a bit of time laughing at the ability to build things quickly, and i was actually annoyed when turrets didn't go up that fast earliar.
This map could make for interesting gameplay in a weird sense, but it will boil down to theopening seconds. If the marines run to the corners and get there quickly no skulk is getting down abd before long its turret farming.
If skulks get a few kills at the beginning and disrupt marines they wil be dsitrutbed for a while as it will literally rain skulks.
In my opinion it is the worst ns map ever constructed and released to my knowledge, you are in no place to tell me my opinion is wrong, and if you've noticed i've not said your opinion is wrong and that this should not be aloud, and should be shunned.
If you wis to continue this, i think it should be in a pm, as we've already taken this way off topic and there is no need to bug down the forum with this.
<a href='http://requiem.qis.ca/ns_missilecommand_final2.zip' target='_blank'>http://requiem.qis.ca/ns_missilecommand_final2.zip</a>
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>Sweetness.</span></span> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
And this is in no way harming the NS community. It is a chance to get away from long, drawn out, borring-as-hell games that have been played hundreds of times in all one way. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>Sweetness.</span></span> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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I second that!!!! I LOVE IT!
requiem, i have little to say to ya, cuz u already know my pov. and t0 map makers with tallent, and who read this and enjoy makeing maps keep up the good work, every player in the ns community may not love your maps, but hey each step gets you closer to perfection, cant wait to see what you guys come up with next
Thanks for defending me and the map, those of you who have a brain and a sense of logic in your skull.
Intelligence and logic have nothing to do with personal preference over levels.
I will never download nor play it; nor do I respect any levels of this gameplay type. That is my opinion; you are all welcome to yours - but I don't take kindly to being lumped into a supposed group of brainless illogic folk just because I have my own opinion.
Your responses here have also showed a level of integrity far lower than that of the person you love to jump on so much. Congratulations.
I mean, seriously... I can't beleive this. To start with Mouse makes an incredibly valid point about NS <b>not being about anything to do with the "killbox" mentality at all</b> and recieves a mass of "omg yuo are so rong u whiner".
And besides, why make a killbox map of NS in the first place? I mean... <b>what</b> on earth do you expect it to achieve besides flames?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thanks for defending me and the map, those of you who have a brain and a sense of logic in your skull.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Would that be the same brain and sense of logic that takes an intelligent, skill and strategy based game such as NS and attempts to turn it into a mass of nonsensical death and gibs?
I stand by Req 100% for making it and he has every right to distribute it where it can be hosted and obtained. I am sure he knew fully that the maps release would bring friends and flames to the board. so you are really not surprising him.
I will play Killbox on HL or the Opposing force version any day. When I play NS I am going for a different feel and gameplay. so I probably won't play it by choice. I will however download it and if i am on a server that runs it... then Iwill play. maybe it would be nice for a change of pace after long hours of stalemates just to get in some fun. versus changing mods/games just to get to that fun.
open your minds a little and don't force yourself to get upset over such a trivial situation.
Customizers do things to suit their own tastes and maybe even share... Afterall, that's all a dev team is really, right?
to each his own...
no flames are necessary... really it's just a game - it's just a map, play it or don't - love it or leave it.
nuf sed
PEACE
If you hate me for making this kind of map, then I hope you're able to sleep at night knowing just how small of a person you are. If you hate this MAP, thats your choice and I fully support you, this kind of map is not for everyone.
Cheers.
because of that i LOVE you requiem, you gave a home to the brainless players and now i can play the official maps without those kiddies and i have fun, they have also fun, but on another server.. all are happy.
and there is no need of skill in those maps
and for flames of my map, there is a tread, please flame it
And please, dont compare it to AWPmap, it is not nearly that stupid or mindless.