Using Comm Chair As A Shield

Paq · January 2003

Not sure has anybody ever mentioned this? (i did some search).

It may sound little weird <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'> ... if you have factory in some corner and there are turets around it so skulks can't destroy it, but fades/lerks can shoot out of turrets range directly to factory. What about putting com chair in front of that factory?? It will take forever to destroy a com chair with acid rocets/spikes. Com chair "only" costs 30rp. I mean that if you have, lets say about 10 turrets there 30 rp is not much for protecting factory.

What do you guys think? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'>

Ok...there is one problem: commander will hear all the time that "commader chair is under attack" <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

that_swanky_kid · January 2003

I've seen it done before in-game. I've heard it referred to as the wall of lame (marine-style). Stacking CCs two high and two deep in the right chokepoints gives your team an AWFUL lot of time to breathe.

vvInter · January 2003

Fades take most of the cases the turrets out before they take the tf out. So it will only be a waste.

Urza · January 2003

why would you ever take out turrets before taking out the tf? St00pid noobs

Heist · January 2003

Urza - Fades often take out a turret before the factory. This usually allows you to rush the tf and get in close where the other turrets can't hit you.

Paq - My goodness. What sort of games are you playing where the comm builds 10 turrets in one place? An additional CC (especially 2) is really a waste of resources. Put a phase down for cheap and you have marines in an instant when you need backup for your tf.

Paq · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Heist @ Jan 22 2003, 01:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Paq - My goodness. What sort of games are you playing where the comm builds 10 turrets in one place? An additional CC (especially 2) is really a waste of resources. Put a phase down for cheap and you have marines in an instant when you need backup for your tf.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>
Ok lets say 5 turrets then <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'> ....it was just an excample that how cheap com chair is compared with bunch of turrets. If marines lock down two hives i have several times seen more than 10 turrets. And protecting those turret factories you can defend them by com chair, if there is few fades alive or they are trying to attack with lerks <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

DDTrini_Lopez · January 2003

In a game in ns_eclipse , the marines were losing , and the comander decided to do that 'wall of lame' , well he said he would bunkerise the marines .
He put 2 CC in each door , and that was hell useful , well , it just prolongated our defeat . A few guys with welders repairing the CC can hold the aliens out till they get the 3rd hive and spore <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

It was great , if you need to defend urself till the end ( and not pressing F4 ) then using this helps a lot.

MrPink · January 2003

I think it is much, *much*, more useful just to build a second TF.

Onuma · January 2003

Turrets suck...h8 them. Only sieges are good, well...because they have wall hax!

I guess for a last ditch effort this isn't too bad...but at the same time if you have 30 x 4 = 120 (or however many CC's worth) resources wouldn't you just give 3 Hamjets (HMG + JP = Hamjet <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>) or 2 HAHMG + Welders? They can do the damage required to take out a hive or 2...or 3 if they work together with help from health spamming comm.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's my opinion.

PATRichc · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (that swanky kid @ Jan 21 2003, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I've seen it done before in-game. I've heard it referred to as the wall of lame (marine-style). Stacking CCs two high and two deep in the right chokepoints gives your team an AWFUL lot of time to breathe.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
...what?

They can be stacked? Argh. Glad I haven't seen this yet, although I've seen a single CC used at a mini-base in a similar fashion.

Siberian_Dingo · January 2003

i have seen some one use this strategy but a little differnt. they blocked the door to there base entirely with 20 com chairs iit took 20 mins to get through with 2 onos a fade and a lerk. they were also shooing a massive amound of nades at us

DDTrini_Lopez · January 2003

Well the other day I saw a commander that used the CC as an offensive weapon . The marines controlled already 2 hives and they were going to easily take the last hive . I was marine and when I arrived at the place with the hive apart from the normal number of offensive towers and such . The commander had placed at least 10 CC around there (we had a lot of resources). Not following a partern . I think he wanted to make the movements of the skulks harder .

Everyone has is own strategy lol <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

XHydralisk · January 2003

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Paq · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XHydralisk @ Jan 23 2003, 03:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=20&t=19202' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...ST&f=20&t=19202</a></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Like i said: "Not sure has anybody ever mentioned this?"

T_RAT · January 2003

CC could be better than the 12 turrets this com put at south loop. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Dubbilex · January 2003

Mmmmmmmm. Imagine making TUNNELS out of CC's.......*drooooooolll*

Skulk maze!!!11!1!!!!11!

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<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'>

But seriously. I HAVE seen this done. Our commander (this is on eclipse) blicked the Marine spawn doors with CC's during a lull in the endgame Fade/onos rush. We set em two CC's high and we had guys with welders behing the CC's <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

We ended up lasting pretty long but ultimately losing <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Now Picture this. If it takes 17 acid rockets to destroy a turret, how many would it take to destroy a CC...?

Error404 · January 2003

The Comm Chair Defence is the most pathetic strategy ever conceived.. but funny all the same.

MutantMFM · January 2003

Not a bad idea for a defence against incoming fades. It sounds like with this strategy you could give yourself enough time to make a come back if you got some guys welding it.

ogz · January 2003

apart from that you can't get out of your own base <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

MutantMFM · January 2003

Yeah but during that time you could make alot of turrets and upgrading the marines and giving them weapons slowly. Also you can set up seiges when the are is still blocked. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Renmauzo · January 2003

SENTRY TURRETS DO NOT SUCK AT LVL 3 WEAPON UPGRADE!!

Hell!! 3-4 of them can even take down caraspaced Fade easily

Most Comm are flaw in the sene that they believe mass sensory turret is better than weapon upgrade.. IT IS COMPLETELY FALSE!!! Get that Motion Tracker up early and get lvl 1 weapon upgrade fast.. Not only turrets become more effective, your marines will love you for doing so.. Also with Motion Tracking you can see mass skulk rush coming EASILY from your mini map. A mass turreted hive can't take 5-6 skulks rush unless there are marines defending close by.. And you won't see mass skulk rush coming unless you have motion tracker! (also it's good to prepare against base rush..

Remember!! It is always too late when 2-3 skulks are biting the phase gate.. You want to make sure your marines are there before the skulks got within the range.. How do you do that?? Motion tracking!

hoju2 · January 2003

Wow I just thought of another use for this, if your Marines can't hold Holoroom and Skulks are pouring in through the vent, you could block it off with a CC and have 1 Marine weld it now and then.

Nm3-Col_EcLiPsE · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dubbilex @ Jan 24 2003, 06:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Mmmmmmmm. Imagine making TUNNELS out of CC's.......*drooooooolll*

Skulk maze!!!11!1!!!!11!

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<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

But seriously. I HAVE seen this done. Our commander (this is on eclipse) blicked the Marine spawn doors with CC's during a lull in the endgame Fade/onos rush. We set em two CC's high and we had guys with welders behing the CC's <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

We ended up lasting pretty long but ultimately losing <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Now Picture this. If it takes 17 acid rockets to destroy a turret, how many would it take to destroy a CC...?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> you still remember that game with me then <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> was messing around and trying 2 save time to get HA/HMG's and full level upgrades which came. whilst they was all fully upgraded n w8ing 2 leave base had another amrine snekaing around with jpack 2 st up a phasegate in there hive so we could rush it but he died as a alien respawned :/.

Gargamel · January 2003

This is the King of all lamer Tactics! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

I would join another server or eject the comm...

Using Comm Chair As A Shield

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