Problem With Authority

hoju2 · January 2003

When Commanding, you're the only one who hears the "Your base is being attacked" warning, but the problem is this happens usually when your ordering your Marines to do something else, like take a Hive or RN. So then instead of running back to save the RN or CC, the Marines will usually yell at you to make up your mind. In case they haven't noticed the Aliens are changing their strategy while the game developes and that might mean the Marines might have to do something "weird" and turn around and run back to the RN they passed a minute ago.

This happened last night when one lone Skulk killed our CC by himself because no one responded to the urgent "Guys get back to base right now, Skulk attacking CC" calls.

If your Commander suddenly asks you to do something else before you finish your current task, don't think or question just do IT!!!

Kid-A · January 2003

Welcome to comming on public servers.

In public servers if 6 marines can't build 1 phase gate its your (the comm's) fault.
Basically comming on pubs is a thankless job if you do well then marines will take the credit if you don't it will be your fault.

The best is though,
comm: Our base in under attack come back NOW!
marines:.....
marines:.....
comm gets out to kill skulks and dies, ips and cc get eaten
marines: wtf comm why did you leave?
marines: noob comm :/
marines: Comm, health?
marines: Some1 comm plz.
marines die
marines: omg worst comm eva

When I lose as a comm and get abuse I just blame lag of something I could try to explain what I did wrong how they could help but they just want a scape goat, so :/

sekdar · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kid-A @ Jan 13 2003, 01:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>comm: Our base in under attack come back NOW!
marines:.....
marines:.....
comm gets out to kill skulks and dies, ips and cc get eaten
marines: wtf comm why did you leave?
marines: noob comm :/
marines: Comm, health?
marines: Some1 comm plz.
marines die
marines: omg worst comm eva</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
ROFL i've seen this happen so many times. If you want a better pub join a competition server.

FlatlineUTD · January 2003

I try and play on public clan servers. You get a nice mix of clan members and general players in there, and games are pretty fun.

Error404 · January 2003

If your marines don't listen to you, just drop a CC on them wherever they are, that should get their attention.

captmorgan · January 2003

i find using distress beacon gets their attention. Even with nobody in the respawn que, they hear it, then jump out of the CC, and go after whatever is at your main.

Then of course the complaining comes down to, "you shouldn't have gotten out of the chair". We all know if they couldnt listen ot a direct command early on, you were going ot lose 19/20 times anyway, so that just get's it over fast..

OttoDestruct · January 2003

Alright so here I am, sitting in my cozy command chair with seat warmer and massager, and our team is doing pretty decent. Weve got motion tracking, two IPs, and just built a second resource tower. Now I tell my men to go move into a hive. Now with 5 marines, with motion tracking mind you, they cant kill a team of two.. TWO.. skulks, and they all get slaughtered. This is pretty much how the entire game goes, until they eventually make it to the hive (I forget which map this was, detail doesnt matter much anyway). They start attacking it when behold, the two people I assigned to stay and defend base arent there, and the entire thing is destroyed, so now I set up camp in the recently captured hive. The marines admit it wasnt really anyones fault, since they were preoccupied. Now minutes pass, and weve got armor and weapon upgrades. My men still cant kill small groups of skulks. Few more minutes pass of my men getting ambushed halfway to another hive, when I hear the trademark sound of a fade spewing its acid rockets at my base. I scan and theres approximately five fades outside base. Game over. I recycle the infantry portals, then, some jerk claims that we could still win, regardless of the fact that a sizable team of upgraded marines couldnt kill a skulk and that now we got five fades, proceeds to take advantage of that wonderful adminmod and vote kick me. Luckily an admin was present on the marine team and stopped the vote, but still, that just pisses me off.

Geronimo · January 2003

I know how it is, your base guard dies, you try to make people come home...they reply with "bild res here" "Give me shotty" and "I am at hive"

Alien_Bob · January 2003

Well, um, don't leave your CC undefended. It *will* get chomped. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

I've turned two or three games around entirely by chomping the CC while the marines were busy elsewhere. Skulks *can* sprint past your turrets, and commanders often forget to put mines/turrets near the CC or at least have one marine guarding the base at all times. Two skulks with adrenaline can take a CC down very quickly.

Without a commander, the aliens can make an overwhelming comeback even if they're down to their last hive against HA/HMGs, 'cos once that armour and gun have gone, you ain't getting any more.

If the CC is exposed, don't be surprised when it gets attacked.

Error404 · January 2003

The question should be 2 command consoles, or turrets to defend 1 command console.

Infini7y · January 2003

Otto, I was playing with you on last night or the night before yesterday and I know what you are talking about. I was waiting in the marine spawn to defend the base and build things, and then we had to go to eclipse command and computer core to secure them. And then, you got off the cc because of the upgrading bug and then all the hell broke loose. Marines are keep getting slaughtered even with the upgrades, and they are not defending the hives, so we lost computer core in few minutes and we have lost eclipse soon. Game over. I think the problem was that only few of the marines had voice com and they didn't know what to do after you left the cc. Please comeback! You were one of the best commanders I have ever had.

P.S: The server you and I were on was probably a clan server called c|E clan eternity something.

Catpoker · January 2003

i hate it when you ask someone to guard the base (or they volenteer) and they are not there 2 minutes later when 1skulk is chewing the IPs

Larofeticus · January 2003

na playing on clan servers doesn't fix the problem, then all the people who know what they are doing join one team, and everyone else joins the other. Then the clan team proceeds to toy with the pubbers for an hour until they can finally be convinced to f4 or leave. Thats why i stopped playing on the evolutionarily challenged server... it is probably is nothing like that when they password it though, of course i'm not leet enough to even be given a chance to be a groupie.

Firewater · January 2003

Here are some servers me and my clanmates play on. Teamwork here is usually good and the games can be competive, although sometimes there is team stacking

69.12.4.136:27015 CAL NS Match hosted by: [ReD]

198.77.205.24:27015 Nano-Gridlock 1.03 - [Evolutionarily Challenged]

69.12.4.134:27015 bwxt.net TAU-House of Flamp- 1.04d Natural Selection

204.248.53.42:27015 Hastezone.com NS v1.04d BETA

Enjoy

hoju2 · January 2003

Alright how bout this fun scenario. A noob Commander did a decent job of securing 1 hive, but then the amount of things needing attention got too much for him so I took over. I immediately got HA+HMG cause I knew that Fades where on the way. I gave 2-3 people HA+HMG and handed out some welders. This team set up a Phase Gate Near Engine Room Hive, but it immediately began drawing a LOT of Alien attention. Me and the HA Marines repeatedly called "Phase under attack get there NOW!" but no one came. There were like 3-4 LA Marines hanging around base waiting for HA. Despite our ordering, they never left, the three HA's died and the base was lost. Aliens took their 3rd Hive and proceeded to crush us.

If you don't have HA and the Commander orders you somehwere with Fades GO! It doesn't matter if you think your going to do die, your free, and you can at least build the Seige Cannon while the HA's are doing the fighting.

DizzyOne · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Catpoker @ Jan 14 2003, 04:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>i hate it when you ask someone to guard the base (or they volenteer) and they are not there 2 minutes later when 1skulk is chewing the IPs</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
usually they get killed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'>

Dead_Dragon · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (hoju2 @ Jan 15 2003, 06:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Me and the HA Marines repeatedly called "Phase under attack get there NOW!" but no one came. There were like 3-4 LA Marines hanging around base waiting for HA. Despite our ordering, they never left, the three HA's died and the base was lost. Aliens took their 3rd Hive and proceeded to crush us.

If you don't have HA and the Commander orders you somehwere with Fades GO! It doesn't matter if you think your going to do die, your free, and you can at least build the Seige Cannon while the HA's are doing the fighting.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Unfortunately, this happens on publics far too often.

Nicator · January 2003

Anybody know of any 1.04 servers close to the UK? Can't find any, and ASE shows none <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>.

Problem With Authority

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