Ha + Welder Rush

srafaelsrafael Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10599Members
edited January 2003 in Frontiersmen Strategy
<div class="IPBDescription">do you think is this crazy?</div> well.. this is real new strategy I think. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

this is need many many of res tower.
tanith, hera, caged is good for this cuz that map has twin res postion.

defence twin res position first.
no base turret. only need 1~2 marine in base.

and defence adv.res tower. this is need 2~3 marine for defence.
don't build phase in first time cuz, they can defend no carapace skulk and
If they can't defend it, enemy can using the phase into marine base.
(res of phase-gate = new another res tower)

and 4~5 is going one hive position, build res, defence it, build phase.
ok then, we got 1 hive position and 4 or 5(twin + maybe front of base) res tower and marine base.

basis is end. build TF in hive pos & twin res pos.
don't try to capture other hive position.
this strategy against Turret farm strategy.
we doesn't need more turret.

just scan & chk other 2 hive pos.
build arms lab, prototype, and researching HA.
this is real easy more than words cuz u have tons of res.

kharaa's building is split cuz they have 2 hive position.
but can't make hive real fast.(they need time.)


if u finish the reserch, call all of marine to base.
(order to abandon all of postion. call back.)

and give HA+welder to them.
no shotty, no mine, no others.
only HA+welder.

cuz this is very simply powerful, n00b dunno about using welder to friend.
but this strategy's weapon is welder. that's too easy.
using voice "don't use lmg plz. drop ur lmg. using only welder. DO NOT FORGOT FIX OTHER MARINES. IT MAKE U GUYS INVINCIBLE"

that's it. this time, enemy will start to make other hive.
Go anyway. if marine unity, marine will win very simply.
but marine scatter, will lose. that up to marines. not commander. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->



ps. sorry about my english.

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Comments

  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    Just remember to drop them health every once in a while, too.

    Also, welder damage has dropped in 1.04, which is something else to consider.

    Otherwise, I hardly think this is a viable clan strategy, but it would sure be fun to play with every once in a while. Only trouble is taking a hive that you can't weld ruins the atmosphere <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GargamelGargamel Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11773Members
    Yeah HA rules! TERMINATOR MARINES YEAH!

    Hey, I click on the minimap , but the screen doesnt go to that location, whats wrong?
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • HavannaHavanna Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11510Members
    I find this to be less of a clan strategy than a pub strat. The welder damage will be reduced in 1.04, as someone mentioned, and besides, in a clan environment, most members have good to excellent aim with the LMG, making it a more viable and better choice.

    The only reason this would own in a pub enviroment is that with HA's, nubs never use their welders to weld each other, and half the time they're yelling at others to weld them or not caring at all. Most pub nubs, which is 90% of them, think the HA is just there to make them buff and just extends their lifespan, they fail to see that they can weld and keep themselves alive indefinitely. This forces them to weld each other, and probably usually accidentally.

    Notice how noobs with a welder will always keep it on, because they like sparkly things. Welding is extremely fast, and with them keeping that thing on all the time hoping to run into a skulk, they'll probably weld each other, as a couple seconds of contact is 100 armor points or so.
  • ImaTargetImaTarget Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3415Members
    much too expensive, do jetpack/welder that hurts too! and skulks have a hard time killing someone flying around! heh
  • Brain_CleanerBrain_Cleaner Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11365Members
    welders & welding is so underrated... a map can be won or lost depending on welding one vent/door at times..<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • evoLvingeviLevoLvingeviL Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7802Members
    1.4 downplaying the welder is so lame... it kicks out the pistol, and the pistol is GOD!

    The welder SHOULD be a weapon, otherwise you lose 1 weapon spot, leaving you with only 1 weapon... and Aliens usually have at least 2, sometimes 3!

    Also, welded HA's will still take damage to their health pretty fast against a few fades, the comm will have to be pretty fast with dropping the HP.
  • GargamelGargamel Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11773Members
    You know what? I would like a flamethrower and a chainsaw just like in WarHammer40k!
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    NS universe is cool, but WarHammer40k is AWESOME <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NinjaBurgerNinjaBurger Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9931Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gargamel+Jan 7 2003, 11:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gargamel @ Jan 7 2003, 11:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You know what? I would like a flamethrower and a chainsaw just like in WarHammer40k!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Better yet, a sawed-off double-barrelled flame-throwing grenade launching chainsaw. With a laser site.

    l33+
  • DizzyOneDizzyOne BASS&#33; Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9095Members
    I think this is silly... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
    I mean, what if base is under attack and all ur marines are in a hive weldin each other, and what if there is this annoying lerk attackin u from a distance and flyin above ur head when u come near him, and if there would be fades u have to weld the enemy more then ur teammates... guess who dies first.

    U still have weapon 1 U know <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    btw have u ever heard of the HA/HMG tactic? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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