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Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">What are all the screen shots capturedat</div>The screen shots have really good texture but what res are they captured at? I have a decent 3D card (geforce 2titanium) but im not sure my res can go up to 1024x768 without it turning into a slideshow, but I really want to experiance the game to its fullest and will buy a new 3D card if I have too.

And does anyone else know if I just need more ram to play at 1024x768? I only have 64MB at the moment, would a 128mb memory stick make 1024x768 hicupless?

Thanks for the help in advance <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Errm, 64 megs? I am running 384 megs and I want more <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
    The MINIMUM you should have is 128, but with todays computers, you should have 256 megs for anything to run.
    What processor do you have too?
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  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    my specs are....

    Pentium III
    63.0 MB Ram
    32 bit vr memory
    64MB, 200 MHz processor PCI geoforce 2 "titanium" (256-bit GPU)
    30 GB disk space

    I dont know the mhz for the pIII but I think its 675 million cycles per second
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    yah, I would just up the RAM and it would help alot <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> The rest of your specs seem playable by far
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  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    hmm well does anyone know what res the shots where? If you knew how hard it was to upgrade hewlett packards you would be reluctant to upgrade too <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->. I accidently drop a screw when installing my geforce and it took about an hour to get it out.

    I have never installed a memory stick before can somone tell me the genral area its near. Is it twords the card slot proccessor or hard drive?
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    Each motherboard is different when you're talking about upgrading, but RAM tends to group in slots of four, each the same length as the others, and tends to be the only other slots on the board except for the AGP/PCI slots that you put cards in. Just look for four or so small sticks sticking out of the board.
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  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    my mother board is crazy the guy who designed the HP's did it for lamens who dont upgrade. OF course when I bought it I knew almost nothing about cpu's (not that I know alot now) But thanks for the genral road map. Hmm so if you got 4 64 mb memory sticks you could have 360 ram *drools*
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    Actually you'd have 256. And a thing to remember about RAM is that you have to have it in pairs. You have four slots, and in each pair of slots must go -identical- chips. They must be the same speed, and size. So, you could have two 64's and two 128's, but not a 64 and three 128's. You've probably got two 32's.
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    Anywho, just moved this over to the Mapping forum where they should be able to tell you what resolution the shots are in.

    (I know you have to play in at least 800x600, but that's all I know)
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  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    took me a while to figure out it was moved at first i thought it was a board error then I thought it was a deleation and I did somthing evil without knowing it.

    anyway can memory stick function alone or you do you have to get pairs for them to work (since mine is 64 do i have 2 32 mbs?) and If i wanted more ram and it was a single 64MB memory stick would i have to buy one 128 MB stick and replace it or 2 64 MB to replace it just to get to 128?
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    *answer in PM, since this thread -needs- to stay on topic... resolutions*
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  • MerkabaMerkaba Digital Harmony Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 22Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    I play HL at 1024x786 (Or similar). I don't get any hiccups unless I have Worldcraft running in the background (cos then my 3D card is powering two things).

    On the other hand, I have 1024Mbs of RAM so I don't think that's going to cause many problems <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
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  • Relic25Relic25 Pixel Punk Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 39Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I too, normally capture at 1024x768, but then I resize the screenshots to 640x480 before posting them.
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  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Alright, if you want a good resolution for screenshots, do 'em in 800x600.  This way, it's nice and easy for everyone to look at and download.
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  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    Except the commander mode in nstr 1 doesnt work in anything other than 1024x768
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    That will be fixed, they did that just so they could get it released. It will support any resolution once it released (and maybe even in NSTR2! <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> )
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Bob,

    If you have an HP I recommend visiting their site and looking up your model <a href="http://www.hp.com/cposupport/nonjsnav/pvpc.html" target="_blank">Here.</a>. Then, once you pick your PC, you will be presented the option get drivers, learn upgrade steps, etc. You should be able to find your RAM at a Best Buy, Circuit City, etc.
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  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    thank you.
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  • Bob_the_alianBob_the_alian Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 107Members
    Component
    Attributes

    RAM (standard)
    64 megabytes (MB) SDRAM standard

    Maximum
    512 MB (2 x 256 MB DIMM)

    Speed
    100 MHz synchronous

    Sockets
    Two 168-pin DIMMs

    Size
    16, 32, 64, 128 and 256 MB DIMMs

    Pairs Required
    No

    Type Supported
    SDRAM, 66/100/133 MHz,
    Intel PC SDRAM unbuffered DIMM specification,
    revision 1.0 compliant

    Hmm Thanks to that web site I learned I have DIMM ram so I dont need to pair it up <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->, I would have wasted a pretty penny trying to upgrade without that info, thanks <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->.
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  • Bob_the_AlienBob_the_Alien Join Date: 2002-01-30 Member: 135Members
    Ok I got more ram installed it yada yada yada, but when I go to system proporties it still says 64 MB. My uncle said that his didnt either at first but that doesnt mean its not working. Is that right? Or do I have to take it back to frys and try a different type?
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  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    Yep, all resolutions will be supported in the final version of NS, and also in the NSTR2.
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Bob, I would need to know the exact model of HP you have. Some BIOS' require that you run the setup routines in order to recognize more RAM. Another likely problem is that the memory is not fully seated and needs to be locked down into the slots more tightly. Also, if RAM is the wrong type it may not be recognized, or (more likely) it will keep the PC from booting. You can tell this by removing your old RAM and just booting with the new DIMM.
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  • shovenshoven Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 29Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    My HL turns into a slide show at 800 x 600. Ya, it sucks.
    I also experienced a similar problem with my video card. I just got a NVidia GeForce 2 MX, and I was sooo psyched. Then I hooked it up, and it's like the system doesn't know it's there. In the system properties it still says it's using the ol Riva 128 (don't laugh!). So I was really disappointed going back to that crap.
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    My suggestion in these situations is to find a buddy or relative who is a competent computer technician and have them help you out. If you don't know enough about your PC, and don't have the time or desire to learn, it's the best you can usually do.

    You wouldn't have a car problem and just say 'oh well, I didn't really need that 4th cylinder anyway' would you? You'd have a mechanic take a look, as they are the expert. Same with your PC.
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  • Bob_the_AlienBob_the_Alien Join Date: 2002-01-30 Member: 135Members
    I have a HP pavilion model 8750c (us-can). When I got to device manager it shows two memory sticks and says there both working properly, but when I go to system proporties under the genral tab it still says 64 mb (well 63)Ram and windows on a fresh boot still uses up 42% of my resorces.
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  • doctopepadoctopepa Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 99Members
    The resolution (even in 1024x768) seems to have little effect on the performance. atleast with my TNT and 128RAM...
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Ignoring Windows for a moment.

    How much RAM counts up when you boot the machine (at the POST screen, I mean)? How much shows up when you go into the BIOS setup? HP docs claim that it should autodetect if the RAM is the correct type and seated properly.

    Also, did you do what I said above, removing your old RAm and booting with your new DIMM, to make sure it's working at all?



    <!--EDIT|MonsieurEvil|Feb. 03 2002,14:18-->
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  • Bob_the_AlienBob_the_Alien Join Date: 2002-01-30 Member: 135Members
    I tried looking for the ram count at boot up, but I just cant find it. Im not sure mine displays it. I guess im just going to take out the default 63mb stick and see what happens, Be back in 4 hours (HP CASES <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--> )
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  • Bob_the_AlienBob_the_Alien Join Date: 2002-01-30 Member: 135Members
    bah It didnt work Guess ill just take the ram back to frys and try a different one.
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Well, at least you know now. Good luck!
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