Ppl Leaving
sySTEm1
Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11222Members
Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11222Members
ive noticed one thing about ns, dont get me wrong i love the game and will be supporting it for years to come. but there is one thing atm, it seems that people in publics give up as soon as two hives are owned by either of the teams, if marines control two hive locations, or aliens have two hives, the team without give up from fear of loosing. seems stupid i know, but it is happening, just today i was comming, took over 2 hives and immidiatly started to seige the 3rd, was 6 v 6 when game started, when we started to seige 3rd hive there was only 2 on there side and only 6 on ours, 3 of which had given up and gone to ready room. very lame. and not much can be done about it, just thought i wud mention it.
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i agree that if we were about to kill them all there isnt ALOT of point in them continuing, but wheres the fighting spirit? tis a bit lame for ppl to just leave when they think its gonna be over in a short while, surely they can try and take out ppl, i mean they cud of perhaps legged it as a team out the other entrance and gone and took out one of the other pg's at another hive and then they wudv got another hive up?
ive played as comm, the enemy has got control of all 3 hive areas (two were built one was getting defences). i carried on playing, seiged one hive, got someone to jp+weld another hive (lame i know but works) and then they were left with one hive and a crap load of trouble
im not saying it will ruin the lifespan really, just wanted to let ppl know that this is happening and see what ppl have to say about it.
I usually just get angry and try to win it on my own or with some other people, if someone suggests working as a skulksquad. *shrug* I've seen marines do it when the aliens get the third hive.
I remember in 1.0 and 1.01 how long endgame would take because neither side really "outclassed" the other due to inexperience. A 3-hour battle from inside of the marine start position was considered somewhat of a normal occurance(sp?).
YES! And I know why: when you have cl_autohelp "1", it tells you to join the marine team when you are in Ready Room.
The only problem is that people keep thinking noobs go to marines so they go aliens instead because "they dont want to be on the noob team". In fact, this kind of post is EXACTLY why inexperienced people are usually on marines; because everyone else joins aliens.
Not me, i usually join whichever team has the least players. In fact, its funner to play with a newbie team (if it really is new) because you get to actually teach them how to be better.
Just a suggestion people, join marines, teach a newbie and then they will no longer be newbies...
Instead of stacking the aliens go marines and try to win, dont just whine and say "all marines are n00bs".
Thankfully, I play on a server where doing this is a kickable/banable offense, so I don't have to deal with the frustration it would cause.
And on a rare occasion, one team can't beat the other even though they're down to a single room....
There are times when you know one team or another has won. I am usually willing to give it a good run, but I refuse to waste a half hour or more waiting for them to get around to winning.
Kheras
Is it just a coincidence that that means you have to fight fades/can't get fades? Spend a moment in thought about that...
I can't say that I've never done this kind of thing, but I know how lame it is and have made it a priority to end the game as quickly as I can. When other alien players start shouting "Don't kill the spawn portals, leave those!" I go up to them and start taking them down. It's not fair to the marine players who just want to get another game going.
I've never seen one team quit to the ready room to start a new game unless there was a good reason for it (other team is prolonging a finished game, team is in a position where they know they cannot win, grief player jumpped in comm chair and built 3 new chairs with the starting resources, etc...) Sure, the first couple times you win a game, you want to go in there and destroy every last structure, but now, I'd rather the other team just quit when they know it is over, but if they want me to come in there and humiliate them further, whatever, I just want to play.
Usually it's impossible anyway, you say you get frustrated when the aliens leave, well try to imagine how frustrating it is to be wasted each time you so much as pop your head around the corner to take a peek inside the hive.
Even if you manage to take out the base inside the hive there is usually 1 siege cannon base somewhere within range of the hive.
It's pointless... as I said I don't leave immediately I first want to check out if there is any chance of winning, usually there ain't. It gives a little satisfaction knowing that you caused the game to end right when the marines were planning on starting to toy with the remaining aliens.
...Usually they don't go in for the kill after they have 2 hives, instead they sit back and fortify each hive with a gazillion turrets, to have their fun.
Ain't it fun seeing 6-8 skulks rush at your base over and over and dieing each time, "laughing"/"insulting them" at their futile attempts at stopping you from surrounding their last hive with turret farms.
It is possible to recover, a minute and remote possibility.
It's particularly annoying when you're aliens, just getting 2nd Hive up and secure, and the frantic battle ensues as Marines desperately try to get a foothold in there to siege it. The next 10 or so mins. is non-stop action as you try to hold them off, long enough to fade/lerk. As soon as you converge on the last hive, a marine or 2 may be there, but generally they just stand around whining contemplating F4'ing it, while you're thinking 'phwoar onos time!#'
Of course, *que music*, Team Two has won the Game scroll down the screen. Sigh.
Marines it's not so bad if you like them, half the game you spend building, most of the other half is standing next to structures or jumping like a mad fool trying to kill the chicken rushes. Here it seems to go.. build enough turrets to discourage noobs, or to stop those who do run in. Then just walk close enough to threaten their hive and bam, F4'd.
It's rare to get to demolish a base since 1.03, unless it's a rush, but oh well.
<b> "All will be lost, unless all unite." </b>
Anyway both of those games I was on Aliens and we were losing and turned the game around. I'm talking the marines had 2 hives and both games took about 2 hours. But sheer determination allowed us to swing the game the other way.
Fades rock my world. One of the games I played I remember playing with a guy named Oz who was the only fade on our team for quite some time. Not only was the game difficult, but I'd just like to say he was an amazing player.
So you see you won't always lose when you think you will. I try not to f4 out whenever possible. Both of those games I was on the verge of quiting but just trusted my instincts to stay a little longer.