Gorges Spit Unweld Vents

qweazdak

<div class="IPBDescription">many dont know this</div> On the first weekend I asked a playtester if it was possible to unweld, welded vents. That individual said no. What help they were LOL. Well anyways, it turns out that gorges can unweld vents with its spit ability. Many people don't know this. So remember that gorges! It can turn the tide of battle. I think on another thread in this forum, it said that servers sometimes make them indestructible.

littlewild

I tried this on 1.02 server playing ns_bast.
I used spit, healing spray and even web on the welded vent leading to the marine spawn next to the engine room.

Guess what, nothing happened.

Legionnaired

Welds are a mapper variable.

Dr_Awkward

I've killed welds before, but you have to know which welds are unweldable. Is there anything other than gorge spit that unwelds things?

Kheras

Would be nice to be able to unweld things. Come to think of it..... if our weaponry can't break a weld why don't the marines make their armor out of that junk?

One time welds I understand, like the laser or control panels.... but a vent should be chompable imo.

Kheras

Pika-Cthulhu

Some vents, (Bast I think) the ones that close Diagonal, can be Spit open, the ones that move down, and seal, cant (They a dark grey/Black metal) I do think that some welds should be breakable but not all (Otherwise youd get a jetbo sitting behind closed vent with welder out and running, Open up = Torched Gorge tehn closed vent) but that would waste a rine for offence, and only used for Defense when turtled in base awaiting the dreaded Onus charge.

Jammer

Flayra has said that it is a coding issue: there WILL be weldable/unweldables in V1.x, but not this version. But there is no way to undo a weld.

Kitsune

I did testing on a few maps with welds (Bast, Hera, Caged), and in no case could I break open a welded vent. However, I only tried using a Gorge on Bast, for the others I just tried to bite them open with a Skulk, so conditions may vary.

Welded-open control panels, on the other hand, can be manipulated by Kharaa just as easily as they can by marines. Hera's full of those, you weld open the panel then use it to close vents and those huge blast doors. All it takes is anyone running by and using the panel again to undo that condition. Of course, they have to be opened with the welder first, so a human has to run up and pop the panel open before it can be messed with.

Rokiyo

Use gorge spit on welds in the vents of ns_caged.

There are two, in the vents on either side of the corridor that runs along the elevator leading down out of the marine spawn. These are the only two breakable welds I have found so far in the entire game, and only a gorge's spit has ever been able to destroy them (if the weld is breakable, it will go down in one hit)

matso

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There are two, in the vents on either side of the corridor that runs along the elevator leading down out of the marine spawn. These are the only two breakable welds I have found so far in the entire game, and only a gorge's spit has ever been able to destroy them (if the weld is breakable, it will go down in one hit)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ah .. there are no elevators on ns_caged. You must mean bast, no?

bobthemagicalfish

trust me vents can be shot open with spit i have seen it done on the map with the turn table to the marine base. that vent next 2 it and a few others

Fina

I've seen welds knocked out on ns_nothing and ns_bast. So it can be done.

littlewild

In conclusion, is this weld thing a server variable that determines whether you can spit open the vent or not?

bobthemagicalfish

i think it is i just played a game where the vent i jion opened on 1 sever did not open on another

Rokiyo

Yes, I was talking about bast.

Breakable welds are a mapper variable, NOT a server variable. This means that the mappers makers have full control of which welds can be destroyed.

SOME vent welds on SOME maps are breakable. Most are not. Only experience and testing will let you find out.

Broken welds can not be re-welded (though apparently it is in the woodworks as a possible future feature).