Fyi New Marines: 'they' Can Hear You...
Kitsune
Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7843Members
Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7843Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Be careful about calling for support.</div> Some people aren't aware of this yet, but when you use the menu to send out a radio signal, anyone in your vicinity can hear you. That includes the bugs. So if you're in a firefight with a couple of them, and they hear "I need a medpack, stat!" from around the corner where you're hiding, they hear a ringing triangle, accomanied with "Coooooome and getit!" Well, not literally, but they may as well, because they're going to rush you for an easy kill.
So just remember, only use the right click menu to call for help if you're in a secure area, or if you know for sure that your CO will get help to you within the second or two you have left before the Skulks run in. Unless you're planning on tricking some aliens into rushing you when you aren't really hurt and out of ammo, but be kind to your CO and let him know beforehand so he doesn't waste resources on dumping unnecessary health and ammo packs on your head.
So just remember, only use the right click menu to call for help if you're in a secure area, or if you know for sure that your CO will get help to you within the second or two you have left before the Skulks run in. Unless you're planning on tricking some aliens into rushing you when you aren't really hurt and out of ammo, but be kind to your CO and let him know beforehand so he doesn't waste resources on dumping unnecessary health and ammo packs on your head.
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I've seen a Skulk *run away* from his hiding place after I called out for health once. Funny thing was, I actually needed it. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
As a commander, if you see an enemy skulk/lerk chomping/shooting at a structure, sweeping the area with a sensory sweep sometimes scares the attacker away, esp if he's in a vent or a well-hidden corner, as he/she might think that the enemy's close by and is getting the sweep for a precise lock on the attacker.
If you know via motion detection that a bug is attached to the ceiling above you, a means of psyching them out is to turn on your flash light and point it towards the general direction of the ceiling in front of you. This also works similarly in tunnels. Typically, though, this tactic usually works when the aliens have a taste of your firepower (HA + HMG toting marines), as they run away out of self-preservation. If the bugs are fearless, though, this tactic can backfire and simply give away your position.
Hiding. If you're a clever marine, you can usually get away on most maps with hiding in a certain spot while waiting for that fade to come past you. Once the fade has walked past you and is firing at a target (say, your main base), and starts getting damaged and naturally steps back a few, get out of your hiding spot, taunt, and open fire. Works best when you can survive the fade attack reliable (i.e. hmg + ha or the fade is heavily weakened from combined arms fire). Works even better when you have a gun buddy to advance with you at the same time so the fade is "sandwiched". Careful though--a smart fade will blink past you, making him behind YOU.
Something extremely annoying is being in a group of marines in a very vital position, holding it while the comm gets resources or more reinforcements arrive, and then having the retards spamming taunts or comm signals, turning off and on their flashlight, jumping around, switching weapons, or moving.
Like half the population suffers from ADD and need farking horse tranquilizers to stand still. Is it really so much to just stand and do nothing?
It's almost as annoying to me as the actual alerting of aliens.
I've done setups before with a couple other guys where we put in siege guns right underneith their noses, but it was critical that we didn't attract attention. If a gorge or something ran by us and didn't see us, we would ignore it. If on motion tracking we saw one run by on the other side of the wall, being still meant it kept going and didn't disturb our operation.
Likewise, if it's early in the game and you're securing a hive, and it's just a couple marines at that point, you don't WANT the aliens to know you're in there. You want that tubby gorge to come around the corner and throw up his resource tower so you can plug him and kill it, costing them resources. You want the aliens to think you aren't there, so when you do throw up those structures, they go up without harassment.
If you're on an assault of a hive, you don't want to alert the entire alien team that you're coming. Kill as few as possible on the road to the hive and try not to make too much noise. Heavy armor is nice in that it doesn't make noise. Provided the retards in them don't spam all sorts of useless **obscenity**.
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This might be more likely to occur during the early game than in later stages. However, if marine(s) come across an undefended/poorly defended hive--don't shoot the actual hive structure until you're <i>ready</i> to take it down. Whether that means setting up some rudimentary defenses, or getting more marines together to assault the hive as a group.
As soon as you shoot the hive, <i>all</i> the aliens will hear the dreaded "Our hive is under attack" alert and can easily tell which hive is being attacked. Any alien with experience will come to check it out and probably call for backup.
Playing as an alien, the various "<structure> under attack" messages are fairly common throughout the game and, at times, ignored (i.e., a siege turret is smashing their structures somewhere, or everyone is attacking another point on the map). However, no alien wants to ignore a hive under attack.
As soon as you get the first turret up, it will start attacking the hive. However, at that point, its pretty easy to throw up a few more turrets in the time it will take the aliens to reach the hive and/or respawn at it. Additionally, any aliens who arrive on the scene will have a more difficult time removing the marine presence.
-Rush
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Which is why I stand with my back to the corner, or at least a wall BEFORE I radio Mr Commander if I'm a Marine nowadays.