Ban This Person..

GeENiEGeENiE Join Date: 2002-06-09 Member: 740Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">exploiter/cheater</div> hey just was on a server:
Bug eyed aliens from Navan(1.02) @ Ireland online|87ms|193.120.201.112:27016

and we were playing a normal game on bast we almost died (aliens) but i got into engine room and got the base up secretly.. so wenn our other hive went down we used engine room.. everything went well till this person :"Blood"(118846) started useing the spectator bug.. he opened the door to engine room and somehow warned the nme team , he just stood infront op the button to constantly open the door making us loos the hive..

he also seemed to move extreemly fast , i dont know if thats supposed to be with spectator bug..


here are 2 screens:

<a href='http://www.clan187.net/images/bloodcheats1.jpg' target='_blank'>1</a> (blood was his name for his wonid..)
<a href='http://www.clan187.net/images/bloodcheats2.jpg' target='_blank'>2</a>


it was SOOOOO annoying and i hope u all ban his wonid..


oh and dev team PLZ!! fix this bug asap before more ppl get the hang of it..

Comments

  • MZ_MARSMZ_MARS Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5176Members
    this Person disturbs on a server i just played
    (SO 10:45 CET)
    he abuse the chat
    not funny when somebody flooding you with stupid messages.

    server
    bug eyed aliens
    (must be an GB server)
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    not that I don't believe you guys but a demo would be much much better. The screenshots alone aren't much good. I do see this guy showing up as friendly when he's clearly not using the right skin.
  • ctxctx Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4592Members
    Why does it seem like 'Servers and Server Operators' is just a place for people to whine about other playes and try to get server admins to ban them without any proof? It's pathetic.
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    well.. it isn't that bad. sometimes there is good evidence. The reason cheaters/spammers etc.. are being brought up in this forum so much is because it's affecting the quality of the servers and gameplay in general more and more often now.
  • TwexTwex Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4999Members
    good evidence?

    some admins are banning for nothing more than a TEXT log

    this is nothing but a witch hunt, and it's spiralling out of control rapidly
  • wilsow3wilsow3 Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5841Members
    At the very least I can definitely say that these bug/cheat exists. I just played an entire round with someone doing this. He showed up as being in the ready room the entire game, but I clearly saw him running around at about 4 times normal speed. He had the marine skin on, but showed up as a friendly when I put my cursor on him. Of course nobody could kill him either. I played as alien, and I know other aliens definitely saw him, not sure about the marines. He wasn't doing anything to mess with the game so I held off kicking/banning him, plus it was fairly amusing to see this guy running around with no purpose. Didn't even occur to me to take a demo of it, but I can verify it happens.
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Twex+Nov 24 2002, 12:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Twex @ Nov 24 2002, 12:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->good evidence?

    some admins are banning for nothing more than a TEXT log

    this is nothing but a witch hunt, and it's spiralling out of control rapidly<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    spiralling out of control ? I think there is 4 maybe 5 people listed in the forum here. the bottom line is if a reputable admin posts a log file, screenshot or demo of somebody ruining the game I want to know. I dont want that jerk coming in my server to wreak the same havoc. If you don't want to be "blacklisted" dont be a jerkoff in servers.. simple as that.

    there has to be some penalty for doing wrong.

    banid 0
  • greydmiyugreydmiyu Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9234Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--Twex+Nov 24 2002, 10:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Twex @ Nov 24 2002, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->good evidence?

    some admins are banning for nothing more than a TEXT log

    this is nothing but a witch hunt, and it's spiralling out of control rapidly<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Do you have proof of this? So far I've banned three people because of this forum. Pee Pee Boy, the 'bad' Hardee and Sexy Penguin. That's it. How many people have been listed here with "ban this person now!" A half dozen, a dozen? I can list reasons for the three that I banned which amounts to more than just some random joe posting a text log.

    Pee Pee Boy: Multiple accounts of his abuses listed here in screenshot, cons logs and player accounts. Furthermore after banning him on my server I saw him do his work on two others.

    Hardee: Multiple accounts of his abuses listed here in screenshot, cons logs and player accounts. I've seen him on other servers but not for long.

    Sexy Penguin: Mellonpopr was a reporting admin on Pee Pee or Hardee, don't remember. Since he didn't fake those I doubt he'd fake this one, esp. the extensiveness of the conslog.

    That's it. In fact in some cases (remiX) I was expressing doubt and left it at "If this person shows up, just watch them."

    You're operating under the false presumption that we here are drones and any time we see "ban" and a wonid in the same message we're going to instantly run out and ban that ID. Sorry, you're wrong. While there may be some overzealous admins who will ban at the slightest provocation based on information here I would wager that those are the very same admins who kick people for killing them one too often, reset maps when they might lose and so on. IE, the bad admins on whose servers we're not going to play anyway.

    Like it or not individuals who are distruptive on one server can and will hop to other servers and be distruptive there. That <b>is</b> an issue that server ops have to deal with and is most assuredly a topic of coversation here. So can we please can the whole "witchunt" diatribe that comes up in every thread where an admin reports an abusive id? Don't like it, don't read it. Just don't presume to know the minds of the admins or presume that we're banning willy-nilly without thought, care or deliberation.
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    well said greydmiyu

    *gives standing ovation* that was a beautiful thing
  • SuicideDogSuicideDog Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8104Members
    I second that post... *claps*
  • HardeeHardee Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9330Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Twex+Nov 24 2002, 10:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Twex @ Nov 24 2002, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->good evidence?

    some admins are banning for nothing more than a TEXT log

    this is nothing but a witch hunt, and it's spiralling out of control rapidly<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Roger that.

    It's so sad that so many unintelligent people on these forums will be more than happy to ban any ID without proof.

    All I can say is that if they got their ID's banned it will be a whole different ball game.
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    edited November 2002
    not really... If my ID was banned on a server mistakenly it wouldn't matter.... I only play on my server <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    let it rest hardee... nobody's out to get legitimate players here. Your being paranoid
  • greydmiyugreydmiyu Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9234Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hardee+Nov 26 2002, 06:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hardee @ Nov 26 2002, 06:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->All I can say is that if they got their ID's banned it will be a whole different ball game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah. If I got my ID banned from servers that I actually care about playing on I'd have to do something to be banned and would expect to be banned. Much like most of the people that we do ban and unlike the others we don't. Which, of course, is lost on you.

    Ah, the main reasons I hate board forums like this, they have no concept of the killfile. *sigh*
  • HardeeHardee Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9330Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--greydmiyu+Nov 26 2002, 06:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (greydmiyu @ Nov 26 2002, 06:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Hardee+Nov 26 2002, 06:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hardee @ Nov 26 2002, 06:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->All I can say is that if they got their ID's banned it will be a whole different ball game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah. If I got my ID banned from servers that I actually care about playing on I'd have to do something to be banned and would expect to be banned.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wtf is this supposed to mean? We are talking about people posting WON ID's of users who are innocent.
  • greydmiyugreydmiyu Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9234Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hardee+Nov 26 2002, 06:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hardee @ Nov 26 2002, 06:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Wtf is this supposed to mean? We are talking about people posting WON ID's of users who are innocent.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Really. And you know this? Interesting. Explain how Pee Pee Boy is innocent please.
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    Hardee, what greydmiyu is saying is that if we were banned from a server we probably deserved it.
  • greydmiyugreydmiyu Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9234Members
    Actually, it was a little more complex than that. I have no doubts that I could get banned on some random joe server. Log into a server where some admin is a wanker, kill him once to many times and he bans me. That's why I included the statement about being banned on servers I actually care about. Be banned by some schmuck who has an inferiority complex doesn't bother me. I'll just not go there again.

    That leaves servers that I actually care about. Those servers are the ones run by admins who are clear in their rules and apply them justly. For me to be banned on one of those servers I would have to actively do someting wrong. Furthermore I would know I am doing something wrong and would then have the expectation of being banned.

    That last part is something that is missed by many of the lamers. They do wrong and seem shocked that they are banned. It is that cognative dissonance that astounds me sometimes.
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    tell me about it.. I had one idiot taunting me by saying "don't just kick me .. that just pisses me off. If you're going to do that just ban me" "ban me ban me ban me"

    I banned him from the server and irc channel. He came on IRC and PM'd me saying "I can't believe you banned me from the IRC room too"

    my response was "careful what you wish for.. you might just get it"

    2 days later I unbanned him.. his attitude is much much better so far
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