Global Stat Tracking?

JekyllJekyll Oregon Join Date: 2013-11-20 Member: 189469Members, Reinforced - Silver
in NS2 General Discussion
Does anyone know if there is some kind of global stat tracking program that keeps track of (among other things) the win loss ratio of aliens vs. marines in competitive games? Discussions of balance would be much more productive if we could cite statistics from competitive games. I'm thinking some kind of program that keeps track of at what point in a given game various things happen (upgrades being researched, res towers getting destroyed, marines & aliens getting killed, etc.)

I have yet to find such a program, though I have heard that the overall win/loss ratio of marines to aliens was one of the primary reasons for nerfing aliens so much since release.

Having access to that kind of data about average research times of certain tech milestones, average lifespan of various lifeforms as well as their average damage, kills, and assists per life, etc. would be tremendously helpful in guiding balance discussions. It would give ourselves and the developers actual information to reference when trying to balance various elements of the game.

Does anyone know of such a program, and if so, do you know where I could access that kind of information? If not, does anyone know roughly how long it would take to create such a program?
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  • SamusDroidSamusDroid Colorado Join Date: 2013-05-13 Member: 185219Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited December 2013
    ns2stats.org/
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  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    ns2stats is actually a pretty bad example. it has a very incomplete set of data and does not accurately represent the overall win/loss ratio. I still wish uwe would make the complete data available
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  • SamusDroidSamusDroid Colorado Join Date: 2013-05-13 Member: 185219Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    Asraniel wrote: »
    ns2stats is actually a pretty bad example. it has a very incomplete set of data and does not accurately represent the overall win/loss ratio. I still wish uwe would make the complete data available

    That's not true. NS2 stats is the best stats there is.
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  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    if by that you mean "the only available" i guess one has to agree. I just dont trust it. At some point it had a *2 modifier for marine or alien wins and that totally screwed up all stats. It also used to run on mostly 24 player servers,which have a completely different balance than "normal" servers. Traditionally the ns2stats servers where also higher skill servers than the average server.
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    Asraniel wrote: »
    if by that you mean "the only available" i guess one has to agree. I just dont trust it. At some point it had a *2 modifier for marine or alien wins and that totally screwed up all stats. It also used to run on mostly 24 player servers,which have a completely different balance than "normal" servers. Traditionally the ns2stats servers where also higher skill servers than the average server.
    He's asking for competitive in particular which ns2stats is perfect for since it has a filter for it.
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  • SiessenSiessen Belgium Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24098Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    it's ns2stats.com btw ;)

    ns2stats.org shows ;P
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  • SamusDroidSamusDroid Colorado Join Date: 2013-05-13 Member: 185219Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    What...how...I....it went to the right site for me, or maybe I entered the url tag wrong first time.
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  • SiessenSiessen Belgium Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24098Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    tbh, i also thought it whas .org but curiosity to check myself brought me there.

    (oo i just hope i don't have a lill bug redirecting me now :s )
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  • lwflwf Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58311Members, Constellation
    It used to be .org but a domain squatter got it after it wasn't renewed.
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  • SiessenSiessen Belgium Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24098Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2013
    pfew, tx for that confirmation. Now i can rip again.. :p

    Gotta renew my domains after i get payed, if the .org is still free i might consider buying and redirecting it since .org still lingers in our minds ;)

    edit: that 'might' just became very small since apparently it goes for 280$ (0.0)
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