Stats! Stats! Stats! Retain Regular Players

SGTMAYHEMSGTMAYHEM Los Angeles, CA Join Date: 2013-12-10 Member: 189987Members
edited December 2013 in Ideas and Suggestions
- Please implement a Rank System

Basically, if you want players to keep playing this game, you need to implement a system that records statistics and publicly posts them.

I am not going to go into details which statistics because there are so many UW can choose from (ex. k/d ratio, structure built/destroy, command wins, etc.)

I recommend having the developers check out the BF3/4 and Planetside 2 if they have not done so already.

And before this post gets trolled, please think of something constructive to say. I have played this game since the original HL Mod Natural Selection and I have waited so long for this sequel. I do not want this game to die out but it can barely keep 1,000 active at all times (even with HumbleBundle zerg rush).

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  • SamusDroidSamusDroid Colorado Join Date: 2013-05-13 Member: 185219Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited December 2013
    Well...there's Hive. It's a little too late now though.
  • SGTMAYHEMSGTMAYHEM Los Angeles, CA Join Date: 2013-12-10 Member: 189987Members
    edited December 2013
    That is a nice attempt but it should be officially handled by UW to minimize discrepancies. I am not sure, but working with Steam could possibly lighten the load for UW.
  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
  • SamusDroidSamusDroid Colorado Join Date: 2013-05-13 Member: 185219Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited December 2013
    UWE is Hive. It's officially handled by UWE.
  • SGTMAYHEMSGTMAYHEM Los Angeles, CA Join Date: 2013-12-10 Member: 189987Members
    edited December 2013
    Oh, great start! Are they going to add other stats (k/d ratio, structure built/destroy, command wins, etc.) and rewards soon?

    How are new players informed about this site?
  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    I think they're still working on some aspects of it, if not I really don't know why there isn't some kind of link to it in game.
  • GhoulofGSG9GhoulofGSG9 Join Date: 2013-03-31 Member: 184566Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Supporter, Pistachionauts
    edited December 2013
    Ghosthree3 wrote: »
    I think they're still working on some aspects of it, if not I really don't know why there isn't some kind of link to it in game.

    It will be used together with the matchmaking system, so i think it will find it way into the game with matchmaking.

    Atm we still also have http://ns2stats.com/ (community project).

    Also about hive you may want to look at this: http://unknownworlds.com/ns2/redeem-in-game-badges/ . So the hive was allready some kind of shown to the players.
  • draktokdraktok Join Date: 2013-02-18 Member: 183156Members
    This is kind of what i touched on in my "skill" thread.... there needs to be something to remember from that last game you played other than "i won or lost but i don't actually remember after i go to bed tonight". I don't care if everyone here hates progression or tracking or not, and i don't care how the golden age of not caring about this stuff us gone, that's just what people do now days, they track stats.
  • SGTMAYHEMSGTMAYHEM Los Angeles, CA Join Date: 2013-12-10 Member: 189987Members
    edited December 2013
    I agree with draktok!

    And thanks for the info guys!
  • jostoljostol Join Date: 2012-11-04 Member: 166659Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Sorry to necro this thread but it seems the best place to make my rant.

    The current implementation of 'skill' is horrendous and is a joke. It doesn't take into account many factors.
    It should take into account what life form you are and what upgrades you have, versus what the marine has and vice-versa.
    A skulk without leap and no biomass versus a jetpacking marine with w2 a1 and a shotgun? Who cares says the hive. We only care about k/d ratio to figure out your skill.
    A w0 a0 rifle marine against a fade? Who cares, the player is obviously bad if they can't kill the fade without any upgrades and a rifle by themselves.
    It also doesn't take into account the other player's skill ranking (I don't think it does anyway), and it doesn't take into account if you're a commander or not. Many times as a commander I hop out of my chair for 20 seconds to defend a phasegate, or hop out of the hive to defend my upgrades or the other side of a gorge tunnel.
    There are just so many factors that aren't taken into consideration that I consider the current implementation of 'skill' a joke and insulting. As well as the level thing. I have almost 600 hours in NS2 but I'm only Level 7. I mean what the heck is going on? Your stats should be recorded regardless what server you're on, unless it has cheats enabled or/and a blacklisted mod (Perhaps the combat mod, and the other gametype mods). At the moment I just find it really disappointing to see a 'level' and 'skill' next to my name in the main menu. I don't need to see that garbage and if I wanted to I could just check out hive.naturalselection2.com instead of having it shoved in my face.

    If you want an easy way to lose skill then just go gorge for an entire round. Despite having 7 kills, 21 assists and 5 deaths your skill will probably drop about 50 for that game. Kill assists don't seem to be taken into account which is a shame, a lot of other systems have the rule as two assists count as a kill in the ranking system.

    Until a fair system is implemented I just don't want to see this current rank system in the main menu. /rant over, prepares for dislikes
  • Mattk50Mattk50 Join Date: 2013-02-04 Member: 182824Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited January 2014
    Also, the system should obviously only take into account your most recent gameplay. Maybe the last 20 hours, or 20 games, or whatever.

    If you disagree you're stupid, enjoy having your rookie deaths or rookie low score per minute or any other metric clogging up your still ultimately pointless stats.

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