<!--QuoteBegin--Hardee+Nov 27 2002, 10:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hardee @ Nov 27 2002, 10:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Let's face it. It is prone to abuse. People will abuse it. People aren't going to be able to play their game which they paid for (I bought Half Life for £20). What you are saying is, when a WON ID gets added to the database, anyone can download this banned.cfg and get them instantly banned from a server. People are going to get unrightfully banned. No one likes that idea. Also by the sounds of it, you have very limited knowledge in security issues.
I'm not spending another £5 today to get a new CD key because of a bunch of jerks abusing the WON system.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> what's your problem man ? put the weed down, it's making your paranoid.
The proxy log system is another addon, which might or moght not be used. Still at the discussion stage. Bandwidth is not a problem <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> see below
Small discription of my network.
2x1GB internet connetion 1 SAN unit 10 TB All server 1GB connections<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well Not tobe an idiot or rain on your parade. But once again. Your just the network admin. Do you have Glasgow colleges permission todo this on there network? Because all its gonna take is a few **obscenity** idiots making complaints to the college about this sytyem, Something I can guarentee will happen, then all your hard work will be wasted. And I know quite a few friends I've met online who are net admins at USA and Canada Univ. And I know none of the schools would ever agree to you running a game server let alone something that could potentially be as resource heavy as this project could turn out tobe. Especially in this day and age of network abuse, where almost all schools are even capping the residances connections. They have been for a few years now. People, companys and schools are alot more bandwidth concious then they where a few years ago.
The bottum line when taking about anything like this is, Who's gonna pay for it? If it is you paying, then I commend you. And wish you the best of luck. But I find these idiot cheaters and hackers annoying enuff, without seeing peoples good intentions back fire on them because of the idiots. I know of dozzens of IT techs who have lost there jobs for simply sneaking a game server on the compnays connections. I to have been running public game servers for years. 5 or 6 anyways, As my fist server I ran was quake world's team fortress. And I've seen this senario of ppl getting in trouble or out right fired for unauthorized use of resources to many times to count. And I truly hate to see it happen to fellow game server admins, who like me are just trying to suply a fun, clean enviorment for ppl to play on. And since I actually pay to have my hardware co-located, I know the true costs of even running just a simple game server. And what your purposeing, would cost one hell of alott more.
So if you do go ahead with this project, be prepared for the backlash, of all the idiots compaining, attempting DOS attacks, and out right hacks on the page and databse itself. Because the cheaters in this world are orginized and vengful. And will find it fun and amuseing to try and wreck your efforts to remove them. Most of the cheaters do it not to seem leet and skillful in a game. But simply because they can. And are quite adept at cracking codes and exploiting security holes.
Good luck to the hackers, they'll never get pasted the firewall <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Bandwidth is not a problem, we pay a set fee for the connection and yes I have the permission that is needed.
Well as i said, I wasn't trying tobe a nay-sayer. Just making sure you cross all your T's and dot all your I's. Beacuse they'res alotta idiots online nowadays.
All the same, just because I perosonaly don't endorse the use of such a system, without the backing of valve or some other authority where banned players can have a fair recourse at getting a ban removed. I hole heartedly support thoose like you who are at least trying to make a dent in the problem.
So best of luck to you, and I hope it all works out well.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->All the same, just because I perosonaly don't endorse the use of such a system, without the backing of valve or some other authority where banned players can have a fair recourse at getting a ban removed. I hole heartedly support thoose like you who are at least trying to make a dent in the problem. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There will be forms where someone can ask to be removed.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So best of luck to you, and I hope it all works out well.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I'm not spending another £5 today to get a new CD key because of a bunch of jerks abusing the WON system.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what's your problem man ? put the weed down, it's making your paranoid.
you don't have to buy another cd if you behave
The proxy log system is another addon, which might or moght not be used. Still at the discussion stage.
Bandwidth is not a problem <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> see below
Small discription of my network.
2x1GB internet connetion
1 SAN unit 10 TB
All server 1GB connections<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well Not tobe an idiot or rain on your parade. But once again. Your just the network admin. Do you have Glasgow colleges permission todo this on there network? Because all its gonna take is a few **obscenity** idiots making complaints to the college about this sytyem, Something I can guarentee will happen, then all your hard work will be wasted. And I know quite a few friends I've met online who are net admins at USA and Canada Univ. And I know none of the schools would ever agree to you running a game server let alone something that could potentially be as resource heavy as this project could turn out tobe. Especially in this day and age of network abuse, where almost all schools are even capping the residances connections. They have been for a few years now. People, companys and schools are alot more bandwidth concious then they where a few years ago.
The bottum line when taking about anything like this is, Who's gonna pay for it? If it is you paying, then I commend you. And wish you the best of luck. But I find these idiot cheaters and hackers annoying enuff, without seeing peoples good intentions back fire on them because of the idiots. I know of dozzens of IT techs who have lost there jobs for simply sneaking a game server on the compnays connections. I to have been running public game servers for years. 5 or 6 anyways, As my fist server I ran was quake world's team fortress. And I've seen this senario of ppl getting in trouble or out right fired for unauthorized use of resources to many times to count. And I truly hate to see it happen to fellow game server admins, who like me are just trying to suply a fun, clean enviorment for ppl to play on. And since I actually pay to have my hardware co-located, I know the true costs of even running just a simple game server. And what your purposeing, would cost one hell of alott more.
So if you do go ahead with this project, be prepared for the backlash, of all the idiots compaining, attempting DOS attacks, and out right hacks on the page and databse itself. Because the cheaters in this world are orginized and vengful. And will find it fun and amuseing to try and wreck your efforts to remove them. Most of the cheaters do it not to seem leet and skillful in a game. But simply because they can. And are quite adept at cracking codes and exploiting security holes.
Bandwidth is not a problem, we pay a set fee for the connection and yes I have the permission that is needed.
All the same, just because I perosonaly don't endorse the use of such a system, without the backing of valve or some other authority where banned players can have a fair recourse at getting a ban removed. I hole heartedly support thoose like you who are at least trying to make a dent in the problem.
So best of luck to you, and I hope it all works out well.
Peace.
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There will be forms where someone can ask to be removed.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So best of luck to you, and I hope it all works out well.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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