How to make this game as good as left 4 dead and other AAA+ titles.

rd123

Hi all

Im speaking from 900 hours in games like Left 4 Dead 1+2 and i have played games for like 15 years now and this game has the most potential i have seen in a long time yet its a shame to see it in such a bad shape.Sorry but i can convince my friends to buy Chivalry and Left 4 Dead yet none will touch Natural Selection 2 with a barge pole sadly


So here is my Idea list and first is the Graphics.Aka the window to the gaming world and one of the first things a potential customer will see.

ADD:

Direct X 11 support
Multisampling AA or Newer TXAA method
Depth of field (already in use when in menu why not in game)
Physx or better physics or more pronounced physics.
Tesselation on characters and alien infestation and objects
Better dynamic light system so darkness is the aliens best friend (flashlights etc)
HD texture pack for higher res textures above 1080p


Other changes:

Remove jumping that looks stupid on marines and sometimes aliens too.Let aliens jump but please put a limit or stamina cost on it.When i see this game advertised with marines jumping around with a skippy netcode i want to instantly uninstall the game.Jumping looks awful and is for 12 year olds.

The game needs a better FOV that is standardized.Fov above 90 or lower makes me sick yet aliens and marines have very different fovs.It must be changed so aliens are not making you so ill when playing,Left 4 dead is perfect example of standardized FOV.

Less obtrusive hud including minimap, holding c is fine to grab initial directional bearing but does my screen really need to be swallowed up by the HUGE and ugly hud when not pressing c?

Better usage of power and lighting, Make darkness avalueable resource for aliens with a better dynamic light system.In short make the game SCARY!

More blood! And perhaps body parts coming off on both aliens and marines! And what about blood trails for injured marines or aliens?

Make Injured marines move slower and unable to spam jump like in left 4 dead.

Give a pounce like ability to aliens so disable a marine!





Overall this game could be game of the year but sadly the spark engine is holding it back alongside overlooked issues like jump spamming.Left 4 dead im sorry to say does things a whole lot better and seems a bit darker and scary.Something NS could use and blend with its own game for a fantastic game.Sadly im going to give this game a miss until at least half of the things i listed make it into NS2.If not then i just wasted £8 which is still not enough for me to re buy this game in hindsight.


Sorry guys

joshhh

Can't tell if trolling...

Source:
My 4500 cumulative hours of comp L4D1 and 2. I quit that shitty game to play this one because it is already superior.

nezz

this is a game not a horror movie. what proper competitive game is about being scary... rusrs?

Jekt

Also have a massive amount of L4D1 + 2 comp hours.

The 'kai' walljumping in L4D honestly requires more skill and is far more enjoyable than the current glancing surface at parallel nonsense. That and the constant 200+ fps, weapon pickup and demo systems would be the only things on my list that I would want brought over.

SquishpokePOOPFACE

Stopped reading at depth of field )

sHawke_Native

Natural Selection 2 is not Left for Dead, L4D is a straight shooter ie: get from point A to point B and kill everything in between. NS2 is not a straight shooter, to play the game takes SKILL and KNOWLEDGE of what to do where to go and when etc etc, also team communication and working together to win. i can go more in depth but i dont feel like it

dragonmith

So you compared NS2 to Left 4 dead, but not TF2?

Graphics wise NS2 is good. I would rather optimization over graphics, even with my new computer working fine I remember hours of playtime with everything set low.

Aliens already have leap, someone could try modding it to knock over marines or something, but that might be OP (and not fun for marines).

Finally, you said Chivalry? While its an OK game, I would never buy it for rag-doll animations:

youtube.com/watch?v=1ti9VaXEjlA

Montyp

rd123 it seems like you want an entirely different game. Most of what you listed is what makes this game great. I agree with optimization over superior graphics, and if we couldn't jump we would need hover boards to avoid enemies back to the future style!

ChrisAUS

Default map button was changed to M awhile ago. So either you've been playing for a long time and still play, which kind of discounts your 'When I see the marines jumping I want to instantly uninstall', or you're a troll.

Pls go.

casan0vax

Troll account. Look at date created and number of posts. Move along!

MMZ_Torak

sHawke_Native wrote: »

Natural Selection 2 is not Left for Dead, L4D is a straight shooter ie: get from point A to point B and kill everything in between.

Have you actually played the L4D franchise? Who actually kills anything between A and B in that game! )

Rushers FTW! b-(

Swift

Oh a suggestion for someone's first post.

A handful of your suggestions are left for the community to make, check out some of the NS2 community hubs mods on Steam. There's a reduced HUD mod there, for example.

Side-question, is autocorrect a feature only on my web browser? I feel like some people struggle.

Regards

Nordic

Troll account for more reasons that stated already. The graphics options he wants would make any current computer have trouble pushing 30fps.

xen32

0/10, try harder

derWalter

rd123 said:

Hi all

Im speaking from 900 hours in games like Left 4 Dead 1+2 and i have played games for like 15 years now and this game has the most potential i have seen in a long time yet its a shame to see it in such a bad shape.Sorry but i can convince my friends to buy Chivalry and Left 4 Dead yet none will touch Natural Selection 2 with a barge pole sadly


So here is my Idea list and first is the Graphics.Aka the window to the gaming world and one of the first things a potential customer will see.

ADD:

Direct X 11 support
Multisampling AA or Newer TXAA method
Depth of field (already in use when in menu why not in game)
Physx or better physics or more pronounced physics.
Tesselation on characters and alien infestation and objects
Better dynamic light system so darkness is the aliens best friend (flashlights etc)
HD texture pack for higher res textures above 1080p


Other changes:

Remove jumping that looks stupid on marines and sometimes aliens too.Let aliens jump but please put a limit or stamina cost on it.When i see this game advertised with marines jumping around with a skippy netcode i want to instantly uninstall the game.Jumping looks awful and is for 12 year olds.

The game needs a better FOV that is standardized.Fov above 90 or lower makes me sick yet aliens and marines have very different fovs.It must be changed so aliens are not making you so ill when playing,Left 4 dead is perfect example of standardized FOV.

Less obtrusive hud including minimap, holding c is fine to grab initial directional bearing but does my screen really need to be swallowed up by the HUGE and ugly hud when not pressing c?

Better usage of power and lighting, Make darkness avalueable resource for aliens with a better dynamic light system.In short make the game SCARY!

More blood! And perhaps body parts coming off on both aliens and marines! And what about blood trails for injured marines or aliens?

Make Injured marines move slower and unable to spam jump like in left 4 dead.

Give a pounce like ability to aliens so disable a marine!





Overall this game could be game of the year but sadly the spark engine is holding it back alongside overlooked issues like jump spamming.Left 4 dead im sorry to say does things a whole lot better and seems a bit darker and scary.Something NS could use and blend with its own game for a fantastic game.Sadly im going to give this game a miss until at least half of the things i listed make it into NS2.If not then i just wasted £8 which is still not enough for me to re buy this game in hindsight.


Sorry guys

is that ns2hd talking?

or charlie himself??