Let the rookie win.
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-21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow
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Patch is about a day away. There will be an influx of new players coming along with the sale.
So, be on your best behavior. Raging, whinging, calling people noobs is a trademark of a petulant child. Please don't do that. Even if new players show up on non-rookie servers, because chances are, there will be a shortage of servers to go around.
What should you do? Engage them. Most people will lose interest if they wander around aimlessly, so be sure to include them in important tasks. Ask them to build, tell them what the building does, and confirm that their action is important to the team. Take the fast learners along with you on "super special missions" into the enemy base to destroy infrastructure and scout for intelligence. Players react positively to a new game if they have a constant influx of simple goals to accomplish. You, the experienced player, ARE the tutorial. (That's all tutorials are, a series of goals.)
So, by "let the rookie win," I mean that you should let the rookies participate in the team's eventual victory. Yes, pretend that you WILL win even if you know that a loss may be likely. Keep the morale up, the rookies will naturally learn how/when losses occur over time. Be a team, don't leave the greenies alone and confused while you do your thing.
After a week or two goes by, NS2 will be back to normal.
So, be on your best behavior. Raging, whinging, calling people noobs is a trademark of a petulant child. Please don't do that. Even if new players show up on non-rookie servers, because chances are, there will be a shortage of servers to go around.
What should you do? Engage them. Most people will lose interest if they wander around aimlessly, so be sure to include them in important tasks. Ask them to build, tell them what the building does, and confirm that their action is important to the team. Take the fast learners along with you on "super special missions" into the enemy base to destroy infrastructure and scout for intelligence. Players react positively to a new game if they have a constant influx of simple goals to accomplish. You, the experienced player, ARE the tutorial. (That's all tutorials are, a series of goals.)
So, by "let the rookie win," I mean that you should let the rookies participate in the team's eventual victory. Yes, pretend that you WILL win even if you know that a loss may be likely. Keep the morale up, the rookies will naturally learn how/when losses occur over time. Be a team, don't leave the greenies alone and confused while you do your thing.
After a week or two goes by, NS2 will be back to normal.
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There really isn't a need to let them win encounters that they would normally lose in any given circumstance. ie, one floor skulk vs 5 marines should probably learn that he/she will die quickly.
The point is, you shouldn't necessarily go easy on them for the sake of it. One should try to get them to play as a cohesive unit rather than solo.
I can't say I've ever seen this happen, although in most of the games I've played lately that had rookies I was on the same team as the greenies and could give them encouragement. I can imagine if the opposite is happening (as it sadly is much of the time) someone would get embarrassed and leave right away.
Moral of the story: don't pick on your teammates! Ever! Unless you know them. Especially if it's Hugh or Kouji.
It's worth noting that out of the many, many stories I heard from people playing games of NS1 when it first came out - y'know, way back in the way back when literally everyone single one of us was a rookie - that the "last stand" anecdote stuck out as being one of many people's favorite moments in the game. Sieging down marine start or some of the more entrenchable hives was indeed ridiculous back then but it made for some fun and memorable gameplay. Just because things are going like hell doesn't mean you have to start getting grumpy about this thing or that thing... just ride the ridiculousness and try to have fun with it, and be vocal in encouraging everyone else to do the same! Oh, and definitely try to avoid conceding unless the other team is being genuinely stupid about it.
I'm going to be taking the opportunity to play some stuff I never really do I think, Fade mainly.
Coffee. All over my keyboard. I'll send you the bill.
Haha oh wow.
Thoughts on suggesting they go to a combat server?
I think I'd rather have a new player that can get kills than someone who knows how to win, but can't hold the line
I'd rather have new players experience the game the developers have designed rather than what is essentially a TDM and isn't a good representation of the actual game...Not that it isn't a good, fun, modification.
This is exactly why Ill be playing on the Oldf server. People are gonna be patient and tolerant and help them learn. The people that bitch at greens for being green will be dealt with. All in all, I'm excited. My reserve slot there is vibrating faster than a spaniards honeymoon bed springs.
Your reserve slot probably won't function properly as most if not all server side mods will be broken as hell after the patch. Too many changes to the back end coming to not cause problems. Dragon is pretty quick so DAK should be updated within a day but as a plea to server operators: consider disabling your server mods until new versions come out so we don't have odd issues like some of the things caused by ns2stats during the beta when using an old version on a new build.
Seriously. Hell, CO/MvM/Faded servers might want to consider going back to standard NS2 gamemode as those will be broke as hell and we could use the extra server space for the sale.
Do you really have to shit in my cheerios on my bday
If it helps, I've eaten nothing but sprinkles for days.
Just kidding. I genrally like playing with newer players because i will usually ask them to follow me and help me out with my plans and schems muahahah. So while they are learning more about the game with someone with a fair amount of experience I have someone who has my back and makes situations eaier for me. Win/Win in my eyes.