Explore mode with command "give marine"

nikodimus86

Guys I was checking how many bites a skulk needs to kill a marine. I used the explore mode in training from the main menu. In game I spawned as skulk, then typed "give marine" in the console (of course, I turned cheats on first). Then after 4 bites I changed to marine team and researched armor 1 upgrade. Then I repeated the before mentioned sequence. The thing is using "give marine" command my skulk always finished the marine after 4 bites. Even with level 2 armor.

Does marine tech or researched armor level not apply when creating a bot? If not, maybe it should, cause that way I could check how many bites I need for a kill on different armor levels or how long a marine can withstand staying in that suffocating green gas that a lurk gives.

Tinker

I believe it's
a0 - 2 accurate bites+para
a1 - 3 accurate bites
a2 - 4 accurate bites
a3 - 5 accurate bites

Katana-

the marine you get from 'give marine' is considered to be on your team, and thus takes damage differently. testing damage using 'give ___________' will never yield the correct numbers.


Also, the above is incorrect, it takes 4 bites to kill an a3 marine.
100hp +(30+20*3)ap * 2 = 280
280/75 =3.7 ~ 4 bites

Swiftspear

<!--quoteo(post=2041765:date=Dec 7 2012, 06:51 PM:name=Tinker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tinker @ Dec 7 2012, 06:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2041765"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I believe it's
a0 - 2 accurate bites+para
a1 - 3 accurate bites
a2 - 4 accurate bites
a3 - 5 accurate bites<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
a3 is also 4 accurate bites.

It's 5 if any of those 4 bites glances, where as A2 allows for 1 of the 4 bites to be glancing blows.

Ness_FrogKing

I don't know if they're affected by upgrades (though I don't see why they wouldn't be), but if you want an actual bot, don't use give, use addbot. "addbot 1 1" should add a marine bot. It might shoot at you (they seem to pick and stay stuck with a hive or other structure as a target when created and run in to walls trying to get to it, but when they respawn they'll probably go for you), so make sure you also use darwinmode.