Buff Sentry Guns
FaggalaTheClown
Join Date: 2012-11-25 Member: 173139Members
Join Date: 2012-11-25 Member: 173139Members
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Remove them and be done with it
Even despite the fact that I am an alien team lover, I feel that the turrets fit in well and their damage output is very balanced. Hell they can't miss and start dealing damage *instantly*. Also limiting one sentry box per room was the best decision evar!
Why is it that way ?? Forces me to think they are almost useless.
Cant u give them a bit more sight and aiming...?? Realy the enermy have to stay next to them befor they start fire.....Mobs just run through them,slash the battery ( bc its just a step away from them and no1 ever would place it that way lol )
Suggestion: Make the Commander send u the battery for it and u can carry the Guns one by one a few meters away from the battery to bring them in a good position. the randmon placement is just horrible even when its ment to be clever by the commander.
Compatible to fix them on Walls ( much more building time as on the ground or just posible with 2 ppl) or a marinebiulding ...what ever make them whort to construct please !
( I posted it yesterday )
Turret's purpose isn't base defense, you're thinking of mines. Turrets are a marine support. They give marines extra firepower in a room, they delay aliens from chewing on the phase gate/power node long enough for marines to phase in.
While aliens have hydras and whips which are very effective (whips hilariously so if you chuck a few grenades at them) the marines have basically nothing for static defense.
I really think limiting the turrets to 3 per battery per room is a good idea, but ether buff their attack and firing rate slightly, or allow them to rotate 360 degrees.
Personally I'm in favor of a slight buff to firing rate and damage over the 360, as it forces the commander to be smart about placement, which is good.
But I've seen too many turret batteries taken down by 1-2 skulks with regen and that is just absurd. Most commanders get shouted at for even using turrets. Which begs the question, why even have them, if they are so useless?
Small marine teams need a decent static defense for the early/mid game and they don't have that now. Anyone having panic attacks over endless turtleing should be quieted by the fact you can only place 3 of them, hardly an epic game prolonger.
Most dump the turrets facing outwards or all in a line, they don't think to place them to cover each other and the battery.
I've had a turret setup protect themselves and power node (main reason) against skulks and lerks.
An even more smarter and dilligent command won't place the battery in an easily accessible location to ranged lerks, thus making it harder for them.
But that requires knowing the map.
I personally think they're powerful enough as it is, considering we can destroy buildings through walls...
Sure, but the place in the game for ARC’s and the place for sentry guns are entirely different.
I think limiting a room to 3 guns was a great idea, I even like the arc of fire limitation, but the guns should be strong enough to reward good placement. Their limited both by their battery and the power node, two things a commander has to keep in mind when placing them.
A commander foolish enough to try and spam turrets all over the map because they suddenly became slightly buffed would quickly find out the squandering the res on a bunch of small sentry nests is useless for the late game, as that res should have been spent on upgrades.
However having a decent asentry defense for critical areas should be a no brainer.
<b>1.)</b> If I jump slightly backwards the turrets still detects me, but only in mid-air.
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/H08x9.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
<b>2.)</b> It should clearly be able to shoot, but for some reason, it ignores me fully.
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/pZoKb.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/azUpy.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
<b>3.)</b> Slightly increase its vertical range.
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/SoM0w.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Commanders generally get yelled at for using them because they're cutting tech and delaying map control to do so. Turrets don't do anything that marines can't do, and marines are free.
<!--quoteo(post=2034683:date=Nov 25 2012, 08:38 PM:name=reasa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reasa @ Nov 25 2012, 08:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2034683"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Small marine teams need a decent static defense for the early/mid game and they don't have that now.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They have mines, which are an excellent defense.
<!--quoteo(post=2034851:date=Nov 26 2012, 12:32 AM:name=Safewood)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Safewood @ Nov 26 2012, 12:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2034851"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Short and simple, improve its detection.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes please.
Mines aren't static defense.
The Commander just should send the battery and provides the soldier responsible for the preparation of weapons. (No random lineup as far)
However, the weapons react too slowly, are too close to their source of energy, and their mobility is very very limited.
All this makes them under the dash unusable if you do not "human wake" specially turns off.
Safewood excatly showed a proof how "brainless" and blind they realy are. So u cant trust in the Guns. ( thanks for that )
@ DumbMarine: Even Mines are easy to avoid ( one reason is....they are HUGE u cant overlook them )
Its bad enough how long they take to decide to shoot something, if they suddenly decide to shoot something and it moves, they go back into cycle again, thats the problem.