Flashlight and the new camo
Newguy123
Join Date: 2012-11-19 Member: 172448Members
Join Date: 2012-11-19 Member: 172448Members
The new changes to camo I feel are great, however it leaves no way for single marines or the comm to counter cost effectively . So i'm suggesting why not have the shiny flicker on the aliens like the old patch, if the marine shines his flashlight onto the alien?
This would create a very tense atmosphere and add another dimension for good marines to 'shine' :P
This would create a very tense atmosphere and add another dimension for good marines to 'shine' :P
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That's why in multiplayer games, invisibility mechanics tend to be binary; either you see them, or you don't. Plus, there is no reason a master-stealth alien playing well should need to be in constant fear while hiding; that should be the marine's job, even if it means spreading some shots around to find aliens.
partially invisible subject that is very agile.
Very hard to catch it.
that's the only way partially invisibility works in MP
Camo now works like that:
You are invisibile even when you are moving.
it triggers after 1.5 seconds out of combat.
you will be revealed when
1) being shot
2) attacking
3) touching mariens or marine structures
4) scans/obs
5) jumping
Today when someone accused him, he claimed its because he was using a flash light that he can see where cloaked things are. Is this true? I have never seen cloaked creatures when using a flashlight before.
It would be an interesting mechanic if flashlights caused aliens to drop to 99% invisibility, just enough for a keen eye to spot them. It would also give aliens a reason to actually try being stealthy rather than sitting in the middle of a hallway waiting for marines to walk into them. That's not a fun mechanic for either side.
It would also make stealth onos stand out like sore thumbs, and that's a damned good thing in my opinion.
If it's a balance concern, make it an upgrade for flashlights researched at the observatory or something. Maybe only active for the first 5-10 seconds of flashlight activation and on a short cooldown afterwards.
Scanning in its current form will never be a suitable counter to stealth. Scanning is for revealing hives, not providing constant vision support for marines. That's a good way to drain a lot of t-res fast and waste a comms time.
Actually, what about as an alternative having a mac unit that acted as a short-mid range observatory but couldn't repair? This would keep it out of the hands of every marine, and if guarded and kept safe would only be a one time investment. On the aliens side, it is a highly destructible asset and taking one out to render a marine squad vulnerable can dramatically shift the dynamics of a fight or prepare them for an ambush.
Would give the robo lab a bit more use. Make it a separate unit to the mac, short range scanner bot have it cover about half a room. Just enough that marines can stand around it safely but not so much that it nullifies observatories.
One possible fix without adding anything to marines is the change cloak so it only works when still, or only being able to move a little bit. It's the ability to move invisible that makes it so powerful. But if you could cloak nearly instantly and then only move a little bit before decloaking then you'd have to move in steps as marines turned their back.
What you don't want is something that easily revels stationary aliens because that will send cloak back to being useless.
A marine upgrade to allow for motion tracking within a short range of the marine would be a good counter. Make it achievable in the same amount of time for the same resources as cloak costs the alien khamm. The motion tracking would not reveal the alien, just show the motion circle when there is movement. This way the alien could sit still to remain hidden, but if he moves the marine would see the motion tracking circle appear. This would be a good counter to camo as a skilled alien could still use camo to his advantage, yet a marine would be able to tell if a pack of skulks was walking straight into his face ..
Or is that too Aliens: Colonial Marines?
That's why in multiplayer games, invisibility mechanics tend to be binary; either you see them, or you don't. Plus, there is no reason a master-stealth alien playing well should need to be in constant fear while hiding; that should be the marine's job, even if it means spreading some shots around to find aliens.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A still skulk in a dark corner that is already difficult to spot should be practically invisible with camo. A skulk walking up to marines on the floor in broad daylight without a care and chewing their ######s off before they can notice it? That should not be happening. Camouflage should improve existing ambush locations and open up some new ones, nothing more. The maps are littered with them already, skulks should make at least some effort to use them. There are implementations of partial invisibility that can't be tricked by video settings, see SC2 for an example.