Hard disk hang?

teh_fattsteh_fatts Join Date: 2004-06-21 Member: 29442Members
I've had the same problem all through beta; my fps is a peachy 40-60 consistently, except now and then I get very long (1-7 second) render freezes. It's not the usual poor framerate, but rather a complete cessation of new frames for a few seconds, and it seems to coincide with hard disk activity judging from my HD indicator LED and also from the circumstances when it occurs... generally, the first time I enter a new area of a map or when I enter a very busy area with lots of structures and characters; times I would expect some texture loading to possibly be going on (though it seems to occur with the Texture Streaming setting either on or off).

It never occurs when I'm not actively navigating the map or loading in for the first time.

My hard disks are, in point of fact, pitifully old, but they are also striped together in RAID 0 to form my gaming volume so their effective speed <i>should</i> be acceptable; it hasn't generally been a problem in anything else.

I've lost a lot of Fade evolutions calmly sitting in place and accepting the bullets civilly due to this. I'm a little worried the marines are going to start calling me The Buddhist Monster.

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  • MedxMedx Join Date: 2012-10-29 Member: 164439Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I have had this exact issue. It seems most severe when entering a phase gate or new room on a map. I have not monitored my HDD but my GPU usage monitor drops to 0 when this occurs and looks as though its not processing any information. Graphics settings don't affect it at all and I also notice a ping spike when it occurs. I turned off multi threading on my i7 2600k due to a similar issue in BF3 when it came out and it is less severe but still unplayable at times.

    I updated all network, chipset, and video drivers to no avail. My HDD is a fairly new 1TB 7200rpm 32mb and I have no issues in other games. (ie BF3, borderlands 2, firefall, planetside 2, everything maxed)

    Win 7 x64
    i7 2600k 3.4ghz @ 4.2ghz (tested stable with 40 c max temp)
    gtx 560 1gb EVGA factory superclock 850mhz
    4gb g.skill RAM 1600mhz
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    You can always hit the console (~) and type
    bind k profile
    Or any other key.. and then press it when it happens, accompanied by hitting the spacebar to freeze the profiler in place. Then expand the most resource intensive items from the top of the list (shown with the purple bars) and once all the important ones are expanded take a screenshot of whats going on.

    Would be worth it to capture this moment as well with r_stats and net_stats turned on (when not taking a shot of the profiler)
    Post results here.
    :)
  • @Korpisoturi@@Korpisoturi@ Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72509Members, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Shadow
    I think I got the same problem as you guys.

    Do you get this lag on Veil's Cargo location?

    I could maybe buy SSD if this is a HD problem..
  • AezayAezay Join Date: 2003-04-19 Member: 15660Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2005969:date=Nov 2 2012, 08:45 AM:name=@Korpisoturi@)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (@Korpisoturi@ @ Nov 2 2012, 08:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2005969"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I could maybe buy SSD if this is a HD problem..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've moved NS2 to my SSD, and that seemed to have fixed this issue. With that said though, I don't think you should get an SSD just for NS2. SSDs are amazing though, and if you've been thinking about getting one anyway for a system disk, then I would highly recommend it.
  • @Korpisoturi@@Korpisoturi@ Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72509Members, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=2005976:date=Nov 2 2012, 08:54 AM:name=Aezay)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Aezay @ Nov 2 2012, 08:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2005976"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've moved NS2 to my SSD, and that seemed to have fixed this issue. With that said though, I don't think you should get an SSD just for NS2. SSDs are amazing though, and if you've been thinking about getting one anyway for a system disk, then I would highly recommend it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah I got a small (60gb) SSD which I have my windows and some programs in.
    I previously had Steam folder in it too, but it got too large so I had to move it to my normal HD.

    But I guess I will buy a bigger SSD then (now that they are a lot cheaper).
  • @Korpisoturi@@Korpisoturi@ Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72509Members, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Shadow
    I think I got it fixed by lowering all settings to low (except resolution which is still 1920x1080).
  • SystemdirSystemdir Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164542Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    @Korpisoturi it is possible to install single steam games to a different drive with the new steam beta (<a href="http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/11/finally-an-in-built-way-to-choose-steam-install-locations/" target="_blank">tutorial</a>).
  • Dark_DragonDark_Dragon Join Date: 2007-12-21 Member: 63229Members, Constellation
    edited November 2012
    How much memory does your video card have, by chance? One of my machines has a 1GB video card and it cannot play the game on High textures for very long because of this reason, as it will end up using *just a bit* over 1GB of of video memory, causing a freeze with increased hard drive activity as textures fly all over the place.

    Try enabling streaming textures if you haven't tried that yet, it seems to try to load only the textures needed at the time, but if enough starts going on in a game, such as late-game, it might not help. If that doesn't help lowering textures would be the only option other than buying something.
  • teh_fattsteh_fatts Join Date: 2004-06-21 Member: 29442Members
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2005734:date=Nov 1 2012, 10:57 PM:name=ironhorse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ironhorse @ Nov 1 2012, 10:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2005734"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You can always hit the console (~) and type
    bind k profile
    Or any other key.. and then press it when it happens, accompanied by hitting the spacebar to freeze the profiler in place. Then expand the most resource intensive items from the top of the list (shown with the purple bars) and once all the important ones are expanded take a screenshot of whats going on.

    Would be worth it to capture this moment as well with r_stats and net_stats turned on (when not taking a shot of the profiler)
    Post results here.
    :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I will get on this.

    <!--quoteo(post=2005969:date=Nov 2 2012, 02:45 AM:name=@Korpisoturi@)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (@Korpisoturi@ @ Nov 2 2012, 02:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2005969"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think I got the same problem as you guys.

    Do you get this lag on Veil's Cargo location?

    I could maybe buy SSD if this is a HD problem..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Actually all of Veil is particularly bad for this, I think. Mineshaft gets it too, but Tram almost never does.

    Also it happens almost every time I use the minimap to quickly focus the camera on an area with numerous players or structures as a commander, though generally for less time (or perhaps it is merely my impression that it lasts less time because I'm not trying to evade bullets at that moment). As usual, after the hang, my framerate is perfectly fine even in dense bases, but the denser the base, the longer the hang.

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How much memory does your video card have, by chance?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It is in fact a 1Gig card <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814125385</a> I've tried streaming textures both on and off without noting a discernable difference, yet.
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