Fades should be the highest alien lifeform

QuasidQuasid Join Date: 2012-09-11 Member: 159040Members
To me, the alien race seems to be about mobility more than just straight survivability. Lerks, skulks, and fades all rely on being able to dodge bullets rather than tank them.

I know there's a lot of discussion around the balance and power of fades, but i propose that fades be made the highest alien evolution. Yeah, it's not the biggest, but i don't think anyone would contest that fades win more games than onos by a heavy margin.

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  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    Welcome to the forums.

    I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you. The Onos, hwile underpowered at the moment, represents the brute force approach to solving problems. It is designed to soak the high rates of damage offered to the Marines and crush through static defenses.

    It has a role. It won't be removed.
  • HeymanHeyman Join Date: 2005-03-29 Member: 46895Members
    edited September 2012
    While we appreciate your input, I'd recommend posting this to the <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showforum=84" target="_blank">Ideas and Suggestions Forum</a>, so we can better organize the topics.
  • QuasidQuasid Join Date: 2012-09-11 Member: 159040Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1975893:date=Sep 11 2012, 02:58 PM:name=spellman23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spellman23 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1975893"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Welcome to the forums.

    I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you. The Onos, hwile underpowered at the moment, represents the brute force approach to solving problems. It is designed to soak the high rates of damage offered to the Marines and crush through static defenses.

    It has a role. It won't be removed.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Oh, i was never saying it should be removed, just suggesting that the onos become the second to highest lifeform, with the fade as the highest.

    <!--quoteo(post=1975894:date=Sep 11 2012, 02:59 PM:name=Heyman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heyman @ Sep 11 2012, 02:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1975894"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->While we appreciate your input, I'd recommend posting this to the <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showforum=84" target="_blank">Ideas and Suggestions Forum</a>, so we can better organize the topics.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Oh, dear, i can't find a delete button, sorry about that, i'll post over there.
  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
    Fix onos, not remove it.
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1975917:date=Sep 11 2012, 02:38 PM:name=Quasid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quasid @ Sep 11 2012, 02:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1975917"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh, dear, i can't find a delete button, sorry about that, i'll post over there.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Just wait for the forum Mods to move it. Don't worry.
  • RPSeraphRPSeraph Join Date: 2012-09-10 Member: 158905Members
    *Looks around for a forum mod*
    *I know I saw one around here recently*

    As far as the topic... I agree that currently the fade seems to be winning more games than Onos. But fully teched up Marines versus fully teched up Aliens is going to require Onos' for the aliens to be successful. The Onos is a high dmg bullet magnet, but multiple onos can tank a lot of damage and allow other lifeforms to get around the heavies/shotties and kill the marines. A long enough hallways, an Onos is useless, it isn't meant to be "IDDQD" (Doom anyone?) Onos' have to be used correctly and organized (admittedly difficult in pubs) and THEN they are in fact, the highest alien life form.

    **SIDENOTE** I miss eating, digesting, and crapping HA marines. Seriously, miss it.
  • MestaritonttuMestaritonttu Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30229Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    Yeah! Lets just rename Onos into "Fat Gorge".
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--coloro:#FF8C00--><span style="color:#FF8C00"><!--/coloro-->*Phased to Ideas and Suggestions*<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> -no need to make another topic (I've removed the other one you made :)
  • AurOn2AurOn2 COOKIES&#33; FREEDOM, AND BISCUITS&#33; Australia Join Date: 2012-01-13 Member: 140224Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Forum staff
    <!--quoteo(post=1975922:date=Sep 12 2012, 07:40 AM:name=james888)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (james888 @ Sep 12 2012, 07:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1975922"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Fix onos, not remove it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i'm amazed at the lack of reading going on in the ns2 forums. he said to make fade highest lifeform, not remove the current one. what do you get when you put a 2 over a 1?
    2
    1
    That.
    You didn't remove the 1, you just relocated the 2 to be a higher priority to the 1
    And he's right you know, fades are far more powerful, far more useful, and far more cost effective. onos can't even soak up that much damage before death.
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