Rifle stun is random?

Mestaritonttu

Is it intended that rifle stun sometimes stuns you and sometimes tosses you to kingdom come? I admit the stun almost never happens, but today I got rifle stunned 2 times in a row by a marine I was attacking, and both times I was stunned and left on the ground immobile. You can imagine the outcome. Immobile skulks are pretty easy to hit. =_='

Right the next game I try some stunning games myself, and only manage to toss skulks a few feeble yards.

Is it supposed to be lottery or just evil physics in the works?

wiry

Rifle butt is bad, and I for one don't think it belongs in the game.

RobustPenguin

Alot of the time I just seem to hit them for some meagre damage. Seems totally random t me tbh...

Kopikat

It seems to depend on whether the Skulk is airborne and what angle you hit them at.

wiry

wich, is just plain stupid.

Please think along similar paths to pistol second fire regarding this one.

Nordic

The skulk has to be air born to be hit far and stunned, afaik. I really like rifle butt. It is helpful when I have put almost a full clip in a skulk as he runs up to me, then he gets at my feet... rifle butt. I win. Rifles are not so good at close range. Neither is rifle butt, but it is something.

Zek

Rifle butt as an emergency melee attack is fine, there's no need to remove it. It's very unreliable though and I don't know about the stun/knockback effect.

Mestaritonttu

I do like the attack myself, too, and the range seems okay right now (used to have huge problems with it being too long) but the toss should be more consistent. Sometimes it throws you 20 feet in the air, sometimes it just damages you, sometimes it just disorients you, sometimes it tosses you a few feet away, sometimes it NAILS YOU into the FLOOR (which is the absolute worst tbh) for a second or two - it's just a huge lottery.

Tom_Hanks13

I like the rifle butt its just that I would like to see some consistency with how it works. Right now after I hit them I don't know if they are stunned or if I launched them across the room. Can be a bit of hinderance since now you have lost track of where to look for the alien.

oldassgamers

Why can you only melee with rifle and not the shotgun? Shouldn't you be able to melee with all weapons?

EgoGamer

I honestly never use rifle-butt, too stuck in my old ways of flipping out the knife when I need to melee.

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I don't know why but melee with a shotgun seems a bit... redundant? =P

Kopikat

<!--quoteo(post=1974663:date=Sep 9 2012, 02:37 PM:name=oldassgamers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (oldassgamers @ Sep 9 2012, 02:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1974663"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Why can you only melee with rifle and not the shotgun? Shouldn't you be able to melee with all weapons?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I think the other weapons will get different alt-fires. I know that they have some ideas for a Flamethrower alt-fire.

I hope it's fuel slick. Coat an area with it and then light it up for area denial.

Tom_Hanks13

<!--quoteo(post=1974677:date=Sep 9 2012, 03:04 PM:name=Kopikat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kopikat @ Sep 9 2012, 03:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1974677"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think the other weapons will get different alt-fires. I know that they have some ideas for a Flamethrower alt-fire.

I hope it's fuel slick. Coat an area with it and then light it up for area denial.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I like that idea.

ellnic

<!--quoteo(post=1974674:date=Sep 9 2012, 11:01 PM:name=EgoGamer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (EgoGamer @ Sep 9 2012, 11:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1974674"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I honestly never use rifle-butt, too stuck in my old ways of flipping out the knife when I need to melee.



I don't know why but melee with a shotgun seems a bit... redundant? =P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

No not really, Yes its a close quaters weapon but when a skulk is ankel biting the crap out of you and dancing around i'd much rather have, and find it eaier to use, the melee butt

AurOn2

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take out stomp aswell. the two features are the same, and neither belong.