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Boney M and Drifters, what a combo!!!
I don't use drifters myself, but I am a big fan of whip rushes. People moan the Alien comm has nothing to do, but proper micro of units can make the job busier than marine comm :)
<!--quoteo(post=1971761:date=Sep 5 2012, 01:13 PM:name=Soul_Rider)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Soul_Rider @ Sep 5 2012, 01:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1971761"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Boney M and Drifters, what a combo!!!
I don't use drifters myself, but I am a big fan of whip rushes. People moan the Alien comm has nothing to do, but proper micro of units can make the job busier than marine comm :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Unfortunately its mainly just busywork. An upgraded whip or a fade, that is the choice you make. It can work in your favour sometimes though.
<!--quoteo(post=1971789:date=Sep 5 2012, 05:20 AM:name=TimMc)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TimMc @ Sep 5 2012, 05:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1971789"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Don't know who thought buffing drifter health was a good idea, but results are funny.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I love drifter spam, but it was way OP before drifters got a buff. Maybe they did that so not as many drifters are needed and not as much strain is on the server. My drifter rushes are much bigger than the ones in the video. I bring servers to their knees.
<!--quoteo(post=1971772:date=Sep 5 2012, 09:30 PM:name=Imbalanxd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Imbalanxd @ Sep 5 2012, 09:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1971772"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Unfortunately its mainly just busywork. An upgraded whip or a fade, that is the choice you make. It can work in your favour sometimes though.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I dno.. :p. 10 drifters is 3000 hp (6 full lmg clips) and only does just under half the damage of a fade. When you hit a sweet spot of 20-25, you have a massive hp meat shield that is still a potent damage threat. This gives them really great synergy when attacking with other aliens. That said, i'm starting to believe the tres costs for lifeforms are a bit on the cheap side but thats a different topic really.
The busywork actually comes from fighting implementation issues with pathing and commander responsiveness such as having orders register only on releasing mouse click, not being able to enzyme if you have more than one drifter selected, drifters getting stuck if you send too many to attack a building, or invisible UI rectangles blocking clickthrough etc.
Its sad because despite all the actual clicking you do, hardly any of it is meaningful micro
I think this should be an effective strategy in NS2, similar to RTS. But, they need to make it so that it is not the server lag that gives you the benefit :P
<!--quoteo(post=1972614:date=Sep 6 2012, 06:15 PM:name=AuroN2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AuroN2 @ Sep 6 2012, 06:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1972614"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->ALWAYS GET GLS FIRST.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> ... which really demonstrates how this "strategy" is breaks the game. Great vid tho :)
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<!--quoteo(post=1972623:date=Sep 6 2012, 06:35 PM:name=Khyron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Khyron @ Sep 6 2012, 06:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1972623"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->... which really demonstrates how this "strategy" is breaks the game. Great vid tho :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> SHHH It's not game breaking, its just too good fur you! :P
<!--quoteo(post=1972645:date=Sep 6 2012, 10:22 AM:name=Onii-chan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Onii-chan @ Sep 6 2012, 10:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1972645"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Seeing the drifter kill icon be the same as parasite gave me an idea. How about making parasite kills spawn a free drifter from the marine's corpse?
This would make skulks try to para kill more often when they see a lone/rambo marine to help their Khamm, but at the risk of getting picked off.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You would get hundreds of drifters early, 2 bits + para kills after all
<!--quoteo(post=1972614:date=Sep 6 2012, 01:15 AM:name=AuroN2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AuroN2 @ Sep 6 2012, 01:15 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1972614"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just need one gl, and all those drifters go to waste. First tip of ns2: When facing elodea (or me, i do this sometimes :3) ALWAYS GET GLS FIRST.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Grenade launchers havn't been enough to stop my drifter rushes....
<!--quoteo(post=1972848:date=Sep 6 2012, 09:17 AM:name=elodea)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (elodea @ Sep 6 2012, 09:17 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1972848"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Actually 3-5 macs are the best counter to drifter rushes lol.
Marine troll build > Alien troll build.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I just started expirimenting with mac spam. Get about 10-15. That is enough, so that when you attack and alien the macs surround them. That fade cant blink away and is trapped until killed. The macs heal each other also which is what makes them really strong. Only a gorge can fight mac spam.
Both are terrible gameplay. I wish UWE would just nerf both already.
Drop drifters down to 50 hp so have to be sneaked anywhere, allow them to move while cloaked again (maybe make it toggle for faster movement when off).
Make MACs unable to heal anything that is under attack. Problem solved.
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edited September 2012
Tech it's sad enough you spelled my name wrong, but spelling my name wrong AND being able to see it in big, blue, text, that, sir, is crazy stuff Also i didn't upload the video, ELODENS (elodea on forums and ingame) I just linked it. ALso sorry for kind of being a ###### but it does get on my nerves when my name gets said wrong by voice or text sometimes.
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I don't use drifters myself, but I am a big fan of whip rushes. People moan the Alien comm has nothing to do, but proper micro of units can make the job busier than marine comm :)
I don't use drifters myself, but I am a big fan of whip rushes. People moan the Alien comm has nothing to do, but proper micro of units can make the job busier than marine comm :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Unfortunately its mainly just busywork. An upgraded whip or a fade, that is the choice you make. It can work in your favour sometimes though.
I love drifter spam, but it was way OP before drifters got a buff. Maybe they did that so not as many drifters are needed and not as much strain is on the server. My drifter rushes are much bigger than the ones in the video. I bring servers to their knees.
I dno.. :p. 10 drifters is 3000 hp (6 full lmg clips) and only does just under half the damage of a fade. When you hit a sweet spot of 20-25, you have a massive hp meat shield that is still a potent damage threat. This gives them really great synergy when attacking with other aliens. That said, i'm starting to believe the tres costs for lifeforms are a bit on the cheap side but thats a different topic really.
The busywork actually comes from fighting implementation issues with pathing and commander responsiveness such as having orders register only on releasing mouse click, not being able to enzyme if you have more than one drifter selected, drifters getting stuck if you send too many to attack a building, or invisible UI rectangles blocking clickthrough etc.
Its sad because despite all the actual clicking you do, hardly any of it is meaningful micro
Nice vid btw, made me laugh..
First tip of ns2:
When facing elodea (or me, i do this sometimes :3)
ALWAYS GET GLS FIRST.
... which really demonstrates how this "strategy" is breaks the game. Great vid tho :)
SHHH
It's not game breaking, its just too good fur you! :P
How about making parasite kills spawn a free drifter from the marine's corpse?
This would make skulks try to para kill more often when they see a lone/rambo marine to help their Khamm, but at the risk of getting picked off.
How about making parasite kills spawn a free drifter from the marine's corpse?
This would make skulks try to para kill more often when they see a lone/rambo marine to help their Khamm, but at the risk of getting picked off.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You would get hundreds of drifters early, 2 bits + para kills after all
Well, he'd take a white to "mature" and won't be cloaked for the first 30 seconds or a minute after he spawns.
Would only really work on lone marines.
First tip of ns2:
When facing elodea (or me, i do this sometimes :3)
ALWAYS GET GLS FIRST.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Grenade launchers havn't been enough to stop my drifter rushes....
Marine troll build > Alien troll build.
Marine troll build > Alien troll build.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I just started expirimenting with mac spam. Get about 10-15. That is enough, so that when you attack and alien the macs surround them. That fade cant blink away and is trapped until killed. The macs heal each other also which is what makes them really strong. Only a gorge can fight mac spam.
Marine troll build > Alien troll build.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Both are terrible gameplay. I wish UWE would just nerf both already.
Drop drifters down to 50 hp so have to be sneaked anywhere, allow them to move while cloaked again (maybe make it toggle for faster movement when off).
Make MACs unable to heal anything that is under attack. Problem solved.
Also i didn't upload the video, ELODENS (elodea on forums and ingame)
I just linked it.
ALso sorry for kind of being a ###### but it does get on my nerves when my name gets said wrong by voice or text sometimes.