Redemption Is Strange :/

Spura

I tried using skulk with lvl 3 redemtion and everytime i see a marine, I get shot and it doesn't save me. I mean isn't redemtion supposed to save me with things like that? I was pretty close to my hive if range is an issue. So are there any requirements to make it work?

Bridger

redemption only works x% of the time. With each level the % rises so you have a better chance of being redeemed.

Tazol

This is how it seems to work for me. It always tries to save you BEFORE you die, like one more shot from something and you're dead sort of thing. So redemption isn't always a good choice for a skulk. It's great for a fade or onos though. And depending on the level, I'd say that also determines it. I had level 3 redemption as an Onos, and I only got saved three times before it wouldn't redempt me anymore. (I tried this several times, and the results all were the same)

Plaguebearer

I've had redemption trigger 12 times in a row, myself. It's the evolution that keeps on giving.

Tazol

Maybe it works more often for lower forms, because it says it doesn't work for Onos, and yet it does. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

Nemesis_Zero

That's been changed with v 1.01. The tooltips can't be changed without a client patch, though.

Spura

Does anybody know what the exact mechanism is? I mean it's hardly worth taking

coil

Once your health drops below a certain level, you have a chance of being redeemed - the % chance is determined by the level of the upgrade. The longer you are alive with low health, the better the chance you will be redeemed. What this means in particular is that Redemption has a much better chance of working against low-damage weapons like the LMG. The faster a marine does damage to you, and the more damage per hit, the less likely you will be redeemed.

What this means is that a skulk being hit by a shotgun or grenade is pretty much toast; both do enough damage to bring him from "healthy" to "dead" in a single shot. A Fade or Onos, however, will drop into the "danger" range, and will have a chance of being redeemed.

Tempest

Yea what Coil said, hey btw Coil your sig link is broken, you forgot to add a / between edu and ~danj. ;p

Sono

Beside what coil already explained so wonderful you should think about using redemption as a skulk.
Not only is the chance of being redeemed low, which results in a waste of your defense upgrade, but also is a skulk not really a class thats worth of saving from death.
The time you need to heal again will only be a little lower than spawning again, and rushing the enemy again.

For more thouhts on this read Silver Fox's excellent guide to skulks: <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=21&t' target='_blank'>link</a>

BlackRoc

i only use Redemption when we first get the chance to switch to fades and the RPs are kind of low. It helps save the RPs.

Catpoker

redemption work with onos even though the little text box says it shoulnd

zoda

If you are attcked by too many targets at once and or too quickly then you can die before gettign redemption.. with skulks this is very hard since they have so little health and it uses a percentage of that health. Onos and Fades have so much health that they will have time to be saved.. like coil said.


Try using regeneration instead. Skulks are great and hitting and running, so why not hit, run, hide, regenerate, hit, run, hide, regenerate, hit, ect...

It's a much better choice for a skulk, you will die as a skulk eventually.. you have to know that.. dont bother trying to use redemption... they can get out fast enough already with pure speed. It's really doesnt take away many resources, its only 2. thats nothing and it should keep you alive longer... I have killed 8 guys with a skulk that has regeneration... using the hit,run,regen tactic... it's great in the beging of the game, because the guns do so little damage to you , you can escape.