Cheats are showing up in game now
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Join Date: 2012-04-17 Member: 150595Members
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One person named sarah in the 420 server had a score of 25/2 on marine side before I left. Never missed, always snapped to target even if you came from behind.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well some PPL have very good aim, and if you come frim behind the marine can see you on his Hud-mini-map.
Nothing special. And 25/2 as marine in PUB can be achieved very easy around 15 players I know achieved even higher K/D-ratio.
A good player that plays this game for 18months now, well even I can achieve this from time to time.
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And many good players actually use fake names when they play on pub servers.
But i think its actually very easy to cheat because you can disable way too much (lerk spores, blink/celerity effects, ink/halluzination, make players and buildings transparent, etc.) :/
And many good players actually use fake names when they play on pub servers.
But i think its actually very easy to cheat because you can disable way too much (lerk spores, blink/celerity effects, ink/halluzination, make players and buildings transparent, etc.) :/<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
People seem to get mad at others smurfing, but then you play in any game with Joe and EVERY round someone is complaining about him. "Oh, of course Joe killed me" or some crap like that. No wonder some of those guys smurf....
They will, but somehow it is more comlicated to do than you think and other things are more important atm.
I realize that it will get implemented at some point in time but I guess I'm just surprised that it has taken this long.
25/2 does not mean 'Hacks'.
False and clearly-angry-at-the-person-in-question accusations of cheating are what invalidate and obfuscate the legitimate accusations at real hackers.
You accuse someone because they are better than you and have occasional suspiciously good killstreaks; that person is exonerated by the community and you're laughed at as an angry player, repeat this fifty times and when the real hacker/cheater comes along and is borderline legitimate appearing, it gets umbrella'd under the policy you've established through your foolish witch-hunting.
Fact is pretty much that most people aren't competent, intelligent, and aware enough to 'Cheat', especially when you'd have to write your own code/develop your own cheats, and pre-launch in a beta environment with a closed audience and a small enough playerbase to solidly identify and ban you. That would be an absurd environment to elect to cheat in.
How about you gather some serious statistics, time-spent observations, demo's via livecapture, and then present fifty or so pub matches of impeccable no-missing, foreknowledge and obscene K:D, instead of a single 'OMG THEY WENT 25:2' as if that's impressive?
Let's name some people who regularly get '25:2' on either side of the game: (off the top of my head, sorry if i miss anyone i regularly play with)
Joe!
Rantology
Colt (Me, thus why I'm so agitated by halfassed accusational types)
Quovatis
AdHd / Xanax
A couple of the All-In members get similar scores regularly when I play with them.
Five minutes ago I was in a game with a fellow 'Wazishiwa', went 20:1, 27:2, and 18:0 in 3 consecutive matches. We also had similar scoring players on the other side.
I mean I can pull off some good scores but that guys crazy with a gun.
I don't think anyone has an aimbot in this game but there are several different edits you can freely use now in any server to make the game easier. Looking forward to 1.0! =p
I mean I can pull off some good scores but that guys crazy with a gun.
I don't think anyone has an aimbot in this game but there are several different edits you can freely use now in any server to make the game easier. Looking forward to 1.0! =p<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
All-In has caught some people using an aimbot + wallhack. Won't go into details, but it was two people with 100% surety (even apologized and begged not to be banned)
It's never a nice feeling to feel like other people believe you aren't even treating them or playing them fairly.
Rantology
Colt (Me, thus why I'm so agitated by halfassed accusational types)
Quovatis
AdHd / Xanax<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
*music* One of these players is not like the others *music*
ooo i know i know pick me!
Rantology
GORGEous
eh?
Dragon<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
fixed.
Yeah i noticed that too and everyone wants to be in the "winning" Team :/
I dont mind if they use other names it usually even helps getting the game started since there is no obvious clan member playing (no Team stacking).
Well there is Also missing:
Treffnix
Fana
Invici (I am sure I wrote it wrong)
And alot more on the EU side of NS2. And getting 100vs20 is not hard on a 9vs9 with too many unskilled skulks.
Well I saw 200/x already, me included.
Treat it as such.
Also, the random flamery and pointless trolling of each other (And possibly at me?) is pretty pointless/childish.
The point was entirely and solely that empty accusations lower the ability of the community to fairly prosecute the real problems.
It's kind of interesting that All-In has legitimately found some actual cheaters... that's surprising to me. (Ryne's post)... but then again, people never fail to astound with what they're willing to do to 'win'.
I rarely call other people hackers even if I am very certain, in my own perception. If you see it... leave the server and type record then rejoin. Spectate them and send the demo to a server admin who can handle the player and perhaps ban if there is enough evidence they are cheating.
I also find it funny when someone is clearly good at a game and others feel the need to put them down. It reminds me of a bunch of egotistical brats who all narcissistically refuse to give credit where it is due.
For the record, I am flattered that colt thinks I am a decent player. He may be one of the only people who has ever complimented me on my playing. Luckily, I don't need to be fed ego-enhancing comments constantly to know my own merit. The bigger the ego, the less drive to improve on your faults. So, I will always say I am bad at NS2... cause I am, and that will make me a better player in the end. Sitting around believing you are the best makes you a jerk for one, and I've seen many "professional" gamers go down the ###### once they let their ego take precedence over their playability. People like to think I have a giant ego, and therefore think its cool to poke fun at me and try to make me look bad. I take it as a compliment as equally as being called a hacker. I know I am terrible at NS2, but since I started playing it I sure have gotten better by playing with the best.
I have personally seen people using aimbots in NS2 and it was pretty blatant. Some people have been playing this game for over a thousand hours and when you see someone on a fresh account going 40-3 its usually a pretty clear indication that they are cheating. Nobody gets that good overnight, but like colt has said you really can't judge off of one persons lucky round.
Treat it as such.
Also, the random flamery and pointless trolling of each other (And possibly at me?) is pretty pointless/childish.
The point was entirely and solely that empty accusations lower the ability of the community to fairly prosecute the real problems.
It's kind of interesting that All-In has legitimately found some actual cheaters... that's surprising to me. (Ryne's post)... but then again, people never fail to astound with what they're willing to do to 'win'.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gotta love them mod's :) So cheaters on our servers should keep it on the dl.
Some people are getting significantly better fps than you.
I've had people complain about cheating when they're the same people running straight at marines on the ground as a skulk.
*Beginners tip* The ground is the last place you want to be as a skulk, and a straight line is a kill approach you never want to try.
The easiest time to see if someone is truly cheating is the beginning of the game when rines obviously do not have several observatories and you're positive your location and approach are unknown. Try stealth walking towards them from the back (on the ceiling). If they snap straight to you, THEN you might consider pulling out the hacks card.
Even better than that, camp a location you know marines will eventually head towards on the ceiling wait for them to walk under you. If there's no scan and they come in looking straight up at you, then you know they're full of ######. (Use an uncommon location as many good rines scan all the walls above a room entrance before proceeding.
rule #1 in NS, do NOT walk through a door as a marine w/o looking up. Doesn't mean cheats, just means they prolly played NS1 :P
Also the sound is very wonky in the game and sometimes you can hear skulks from very far away so even if you think you've stealth walked into position, they may already have heard you and are aware of you.
It still seems buggy in that it shows players when there is no line of sight on them at all. Also players stay on the minimap for an absurdly long time. The minimap itself could be considered "hacks" when you really think about it... cause it is still giving players an unfair advantage (Even though everyone else can abuse it as well). It's not obvious to most people however.
I don't like things like these in videogames (I love the minimap just not the bugs). You shouldn't be able to win by using bugs and exploits. I have seen enemy players show up randomly on the minimap... I see which direction they are moving and I use my logic to determine where they are going to be. I already have a huge advantage over this player with my "wallhack" minimap.
I am sure I have been fragged due to the imba minimap plenty a time. It makes stealthing as a skulk kind of a pain at times. Don't get me started about marines on infestation either... flying above it... or jumping on props off the ground does nothing to keep you hidden.
I'm sure these issues will be fixed eventually though.
This could probably use some tweaking, but I really don't want it to go back to the way it was (I forget the build), when you had zero vision on the map about how many rines or aliens were hitting your territory.
Using the map makes players better, and as a big RTS fan, I'm all for that.
Even better than that, camp a location you know marines will eventually head towards on the ceiling wait for them to walk under you. If there's no scan and they come in looking straight up at you, then you know they're full of ######. (Use an uncommon location as many good rines scan all the walls above a room entrance before proceeding.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrooong! If I enter a room and a skulk is above or comming behind me, I can see him on the mini map! That is absoluetly no cheat indication, just a "OP" mini map.
That being said, if you want to know if someone is hacking just fly a lerk past them evasively. If they use less than a clip, they probably are, depending on your definition of evasive.