Livestreams List

ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
edited June 2012 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Calling all livestreamers!</div>Hi guys,

I have decided to put a small part of my current project live for people to use/see. Partly as I believe you will enjoy it and partly so that I can test its use and get it setup correctly.

I have created a database for holding livestream information. It then checks every 5mins if each stream is active or not. Another script checks every minute and updates the details of active streams. The webpage (below) lists all streams that are currently active in a table and gives you a 'Watch Now' link which will take you to another page and embed the video/chatbox. I hope this will be a convenient way for the community to find/watch live NS2 streams and help streamers get noticed.

You can view the progress here: <a href="http://www.duplexgaming.co.uk/livestreams/" target="_blank">http://www.duplexgaming.co.uk/livestreams/</a>

Currently it only supports twitch.tv and justin.tv streams, but I will have own3d.tv working soon. There is now a form for users logged into duplexgaming, allowing you to add a stream by simply pasting the URL into the form.

If you use a streaming service not mentioned, let me know and I will add further services as time passes.

If you visit the page and it looks like all hell has broken loose or parts are not functioning properly, give me a kick here in this thread or on steam.

<b>Notes:</b>
I would encourage you to speak up if you think the service can be improved or expanded in any way.

If you find a bug please let me know here. I will fix it asap.

You are helping to test and polish one small function of something much bigger and more exciting coming soon(ish).

<b>Known Issues:</b>
own3d.tv streams not fully supported (coming soon).
current viewer / max viewer stats on the embedded video page do not update after pageload.
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  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    I will add some SC2, LoL, etc streams so you can see it working until I get some NS2 streams that are online.
  • JowJow Join Date: 2011-06-23 Member: 106032Members
    This will be nice when it gets set up :)

    The devs should probably add something like this + community news to the game really, it seems to be the way SC/LoL/Dota etc are moving.
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1945039:date=Jun 19 2012, 11:08 PM:name=Jow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jow @ Jun 19 2012, 11:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1945039"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This will be nice when it gets set up :)

    The devs should probably add something like this + community news to the game really, it seems to be the way SC/LoL/Dota etc are moving.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thank you Jow, I hope so too. Just need a healthly list of streamers.

    I think we will find that NS2 turns out to have a very nice community hub. ;)
  • elodeaelodea Editlodea Join Date: 2009-06-20 Member: 67877Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2012
    duplex gaming = ns2's team liquid? Nice arga!
    *edit* how do you nominate people for s5?
  • XeiZXeiZ Join Date: 2012-04-13 Member: 150384Members
    edited June 2012
    Sounds nice, question is who except people actually LOOKING for it will find this? Would be pretty cool if duplex will get big after release tho.

    I know of:
    www.twitch.tv/naturalselection2 - (of course lol)
    www.twitch.tv/rwryne - streams pretty often with one of the highest qualities in the community yet, ns2 comp/gather casts
    www.twitch.tv/huze1 - sometimes stuff about insight, more like a lua coder stream
    www.twitch.tv/NSIIRemedy - mapper of ns2_eclipse, streams.... mapping! :p
    www.twitch.tv/XeiZ - best streamer on twitch! just kidding, i stream ns2 from time to time, will start more streaming when my fps is above 30 lategame, would say second best quality i know of


    I know there are some more streams that streamed ns2 sometimes in the past but only listed the ones that stream more often (except me lol but i only stream gw2 and ns2 anyway)
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    Thanks guys.

    I have added those streams, thank you XeiZ. I am looking forward to seeing some live mapping action from Remedy!

    I have been considering a category system and allowing any streams to be added. That way people can submit and watch other streams they might be interest in too, it would just default display NS2 streams.
  • JuCCiJuCCi Join Date: 2011-08-08 Member: 114961Members, NS2 Map Tester
    Remedy i added you to our site also. Hope you don't mind but if you do message me please and i will remove it. "www.twitch.tv/NSIIRemedy - mapper of ns2_eclipse, streams"
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    Added a few more livestreams I found from searching on google and the forum.

    There may be some erratic behavior tonight as I continue with adding functionality:

    Complete the support for own3d.tv streams
    Add in a form for the community to add streams
    Add in a table for browsing offline streams
    Re-do the layout of the embedded videos page.

    It would be great if some of the NS2 streamers could try streaming and let me know if the website accurately picks up their stream. Just remember that the active check is processed every 5mins.
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    I have re-arranged/sized some parts of the page displaying embedded videos. So that the video is now the full width of the page, with the chatbox underneath it. I think this allows you to watch it outside of fullscreen better and still see/use chat. Let me know what you think!

    I have discovered an issue where some videos show an error message saying they cannot be embedded. However, this does not seem to have any correlation between whether or not <embed_enabled></embed_enabled> is set to True or False in the .xml file for each stream. More investigation required, unless someone else can shed some light on it?
  • XeiZXeiZ Join Date: 2012-04-13 Member: 150384Members
    One suggestion: For people with dual monitor, could you enable people to popout the chat like on twitch.tv ?
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1945237:date=Jun 20 2012, 05:05 PM:name=XeiZ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (XeiZ @ Jun 20 2012, 05:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1945237"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->One suggestion: For people with dual monitor, could you enable people to popout the chat like on twitch.tv ?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thank you XeiZ, exactly the type of feedback I am after. I believe I have fixed it, you should be able to popout the chatbox now!
  • WasabiOneWasabiOne Co-Lead NS2 CDT Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104623Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    I am working on getting all my stuff setup on twitch now, I will be doing stuff during the week and some additional shows on parts of the games, interviews, etc...
  • JuCCiJuCCi Join Date: 2011-08-08 Member: 114961Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1945269:date=Jun 20 2012, 02:49 PM:name=WasabiOne)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WasabiOne @ Jun 20 2012, 02:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1945269"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I am working on getting all my stuff setup on twitch now, I will be doing stuff during the week and some additional shows on parts of the games, interviews, etc...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    yes NS2HD jumping jax!!!!!! :D
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited June 2012
    Just discovered an unintended side effect of this addition to the site, it now seems to continually go unresponsive for brief (but entirely annoying and unacceptable) periods of time. Looking into this now.

    ** Update: It was nothing to do with duplexgaming, another site which had been hosted on the server as a favour was going crazy, ive disabled it and everything should be fine now.
  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Members
    Perhaps it would be good to list the offline streams underneath so people can still view the entire list.
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1945303:date=Jun 20 2012, 07:39 PM:name=Wilson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wilson @ Jun 20 2012, 07:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1945303"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Perhaps it would be good to list the offline streams underneath so people can still view the entire list.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is a good idea and in the works. I would like to show the offline streams too with users selecting an Online/Offline tab above the table to flick between.

    I have it mostly worked out, I just want to change how all the streams are displayed to clear it up.

    I am currently thinking:

    <b>For Online</b>
    'Channel Name' -> 'Current Viewers' -> 'Max Viewers' -> 'Stream Duration' -> 'View Link'

    <b>For Offline</b>
    'Channel Name' -> 'Last Active' -> 'Max Viewers'

    Any feedback/suggestions on that?
  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Awesome idea Argathor!

    And speaking of streams, anyone who has a proven track record of streaming NS2 is welcome to make appearances on twitch.tv/naturalselection2. At the moment, Rhyne and InternetsLive have access, and I am always on the look out for more people who want to stream via the official channel.
  • DggMuffinDggMuffin Join Date: 2012-05-28 Member: 152684Members
    Decided to give streaming a try.

    <a href="http://www.twitch.tv/dggmuffin" target="_blank">http://www.twitch.tv/dggmuffin</a> for whoever is interested
  • JuCCiJuCCi Join Date: 2011-08-08 Member: 114961Members, NS2 Map Tester
    Hey Argathor. Check out are site and how the streams are set-up for a idea. teamall-in.net
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1945323:date=Jun 20 2012, 08:45 PM:name=Strayan (NS2HD))--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Strayan (NS2HD) @ Jun 20 2012, 08:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1945323"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Awesome idea Argathor!

    And speaking of streams, anyone who has a proven track record of streaming NS2 is welcome to make appearances on twitch.tv/naturalselection2. At the moment, Rhyne and InternetsLive have access, and I am always on the look out for more people who want to stream via the official channel.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thank you. I have around 20 NS2 related streams added now, but am yet to see any of them active personally. I hope this will improve over time and I am sure closer to/after release will see this become a valuable resource!

    <!--quoteo(post=1945341:date=Jun 20 2012, 09:24 PM:name=DggMuffin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DggMuffin @ Jun 20 2012, 09:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1945341"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Decided to give streaming a try.

    <a href="http://www.twitch.tv/dggmuffin" target="_blank">http://www.twitch.tv/dggmuffin</a> for whoever is interested<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Added, I look forward to watching some of your streaming!
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    <b>Tonights Progress:</b>

    <ul><li>Discovered that stream_title will not always be available if it is not set (Thanks dggmuffin).</li><li>Completed own3d.tv compatibility.</li><li>Fixed max_viewers updating, it should be reliable now.</li><li>Fixed the lag between marking streams as active/inactive and their details being updated for the first time.</li></ul>
  • ScrajmScrajm Join Date: 2011-10-17 Member: 127859Members
    How can you be so awesome Arga?
  • DggMuffinDggMuffin Join Date: 2012-05-28 Member: 152684Members
    edited June 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1945323:date=Jun 20 2012, 01:45 PM:name=Strayan (NS2HD))--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Strayan (NS2HD) @ Jun 20 2012, 01:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1945323"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Awesome idea Argathor!

    And speaking of streams, anyone who has a proven track record of streaming NS2 is welcome to make appearances on twitch.tv/naturalselection2. At the moment, Rhyne and InternetsLive have access, and I am always on the look out for more people who want to stream via the official channel.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Check out the videos on my twitch feed and let me know if they look good enough quality for the ns2 stream.

    Twitch.tv/dggmuffin

    I'm running it off my asus gaming laptop and I don't lag at all in game while streaming, but the stream looks a bit choppy at times.
  • elodeaelodea Editlodea Join Date: 2009-06-20 Member: 67877Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2012
    Anyone get heaps of dropped frames while streaming full screen but have it totally fine in windowed mode?
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    max_viewers is not working correctly after all, it's always the simple things! Will fix that tonight!
  • bEEbbEEb Join Date: 2012-03-24 Member: 149317Members, NS2 Map Tester
    Argathor, I have yet to see an account activation email. Tried to have it resent twice to no avail.
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1945554:date=Jun 21 2012, 12:27 PM:name=bEEb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bEEb @ Jun 21 2012, 12:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1945554"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Argathor, I have yet to see an account activation email. Tried to have it resent twice to no avail.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have manually re-sent the activation (and mirrored it on a test waiting to be activated account). I received the email to the test account, did you receive yours?

    It quite frequently goes to spam, but should not be completely blocked from arriving.
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    I have almost got the form ready so that people logged into the duplex site can submit streams by their URL (I don't want to make it completely public, as I have no way of controlling which streams people submit).

    I just need to get it to remove the username or liveID from the URL depending on which service it is, that will probably have to wait until tomorrow though.

    The max_viewers stat still seems to be incorrectly resetting/dropping.

    I discovered I can now obtain channel and stream names from own3d using their rss feed, however as more than 1 person can stream at the same time using each own3d channel I need to consider how I will hold that in the database and how I will display it in the site.
  • DustehDusteh Join Date: 2011-07-25 Member: 112142Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2012
    Streaming now

    <a href="http://www.justin.tv/dustykid86" target="_blank">www.twitch.tv/dustykid86</a>
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1945708:date=Jun 21 2012, 09:16 PM:name=Dusteh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dusteh @ Jun 21 2012, 09:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1945708"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Streaming now

    www.twitch.tv/dustykid86<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Added and I am watching now. This is the first gameplay ive seen for 2-3 builds, looks totally different...much nicer!

    Awesome shotgun work btw!
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