Request: First person video footage from top players

Linksys_RouterLinksys_Router Join Date: 2012-04-11 Member: 150276Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Care to give up your secrets?</div>I would love to see some first person videos of high level game play. There are still a lot of techniques I'm struggling with that most pro players have down.
<ul><li>Shooting a skulk when it's already at your feet</li><li>Combining Fade's secondary attack with shadow step (I always seem to miss the marine)</li><li>Lerking lerking lerking, tracking a marine while flying, Some of you are crazy good at this</li></ul>
Also, does anyone switch between sensitivity in mouse movements for aliens and marines. I feel that if I lower my sensitivty for marines I'm more accurate and I'm a better skulk if I raise it. How about most optimized keyboard shortcuts? Do you keep your PTT (push to talk) button on your keyboard or mouse? Do you turn all the graphical settings off? r_atmospherics, r_shadows, r_fog... etc.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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  • RyneRyne Join Date: 2012-02-25 Member: 147408Members, NS2 Map Tester
    Im nowhere near a "top player", but I know a lot of us use mouse for PTT. I have a forward and back button (for browsing) on my mouse, I use forward for in game chat, back for teamspeak. Works pretty well!
  • Champlo0Champlo0 Join Date: 2012-04-17 Member: 150617Members
    Well the first thing you want to do is get a 1500 dollar computer.
  • WiltdogWiltdog Join Date: 2011-05-26 Member: 100980Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934663:date=May 8 2012, 10:01 PM:name=Champlo0)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Champlo0 @ May 8 2012, 10:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934663"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well the first thing you want to do is get a 1500 dollar computer.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    ^
    Exactly this.

    Right now I wouldn't worry about your skill so much. Frame rate is jittery as hell. Once its optimized then see how much help you need.
  • fmponefmpone Join Date: 2011-07-05 Member: 108086Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1934663:date=May 9 2012, 12:01 AM:name=Champlo0)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Champlo0 @ May 9 2012, 12:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934663"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well the first thing you want to do is get a 1500 dollar computer.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This is a big part of having a great time with NS2 right. Once I upgraded my computer I was in heaven.
  • Champlo0Champlo0 Join Date: 2012-04-17 Member: 150617Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934668:date=May 8 2012, 09:28 PM:name=fmpone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fmpone @ May 8 2012, 09:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934668"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is a big part of having a great time with NS2 right. Once I upgraded my computer I was in heaven.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You sir, made that your six hundred and sixty-sixth post.
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    unless you're including monitor, keyboard etc you'll only need 1 grand for a state of the art PC if you build it yourself.
  • fmponefmpone Join Date: 2011-07-05 Member: 108086Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1934669:date=May 9 2012, 12:31 AM:name=Champlo0)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Champlo0 @ May 9 2012, 12:31 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934669"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You sir, made that your six hundred and sixty-sixth post.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Aw man.. Satan will never forgive me for this.
  • flyjumflyjum Join Date: 2012-01-07 Member: 139849Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934668:date=May 8 2012, 09:28 PM:name=fmpone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fmpone @ May 8 2012, 09:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934668"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is a big part of having a great time with NS2 right. Once I upgraded my computer I was in heaven.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <b>this</b>
    I went from from ###### gt220 gpu with a q8200 cpu to a 990x i7 with sli 590s

    This game is so hard to play with 20fps its like night at day

    But you can build a PC for 750$ that will run ns2 maxed out just fine
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    reality check: 800-1k computers to play a 40$ game. i'd do it, you'd do it, but the general public won't do it.
  • fmponefmpone Join Date: 2011-07-05 Member: 108086Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1934677:date=May 9 2012, 01:03 AM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ May 9 2012, 01:03 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934677"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->reality check: 800-1k computers to play a 40$ game. i'd do it, you'd do it, but the general public won't do it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not to say people should need to automatically upgrade their computer to play NS2. I'm NOT saying that. However, upgrading is part of the territory with pc gaming. It is just something you need to do every 5 years or so, it comes with the territory.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    anyway let's not stray any further afield. i would also love to see some footage from good players.
  • bEEbbEEb Join Date: 2012-03-24 Member: 149317Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1934686:date=May 8 2012, 10:52 PM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ May 8 2012, 10:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934686"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->anyway let's not stray any further afield. i would also love to see some footage from good players.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Including a pic of their rigs lol.

    Seriously though I like the idea. It reminds me of watching videos (pre youtube!!) of old TFC pro Conc Jumpers playing a map.

    It always helped me figure out ways of playing differently.
  • Squirreli_Squirreli_ Join Date: 2012-04-25 Member: 151046Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    One of my clan mates, Synomi, has streamed a few of our games from his point of view... One such video (with our finnish Mumble chatter) is here:

    <a href="http://www.twitch.tv/synomi/b/317223908" target="_blank">http://www.twitch.tv/synomi/b/317223908</a>

    There are a lot of our other games at <a href="http://exertus.q-q.name/?page_id=270" target="_blank">http://exertus.q-q.name/?page_id=270</a> , casted stream means usually NS2HD and plain "stream" is POV stream. Dunno if these are exactly what you are looking for, but maybe there is something to be learned watching Synomi play ;)
  • MaximumSquidMaximumSquid Join Date: 2010-07-20 Member: 72593Members
    <u><b>Linksys_Router:</b></u>

    How should we get you the raw video?
    Most video upload sites reduce quality pretty badly and I refuse to use youtube now as they make you link your account
  • bLink`bLink` Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146506Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    I'd show you how I fade, but my fps would drop a little if I start recording lol.
  • Linksys_RouterLinksys_Router Join Date: 2012-04-11 Member: 150276Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934737:date=May 9 2012, 07:13 AM:name=MaximumSquid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaximumSquid @ May 9 2012, 07:13 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934737"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><u><b>Linksys_Router:</b></u>

    How should we get you the raw video?
    Most video upload sites reduce quality pretty badly and I refuse to use youtube now as they make you link your account<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Make you link your account? What does that mean and how is it bad?
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934774:date=May 9 2012, 10:09 AM:name=Linksys_Router)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Linksys_Router @ May 9 2012, 10:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934774"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Make you link your account? What does that mean and how is it bad?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    you need to link the youtube account with a google account.
  • Linksys_RouterLinksys_Router Join Date: 2012-04-11 Member: 150276Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934781:date=May 9 2012, 09:50 AM:name=DJPenguin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DJPenguin @ May 9 2012, 09:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934781"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->you need to link the youtube account with a google account.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ah... why is that bad? Scared of spam or something?
  • TrCTrC Join Date: 2008-11-30 Member: 65612Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934782:date=May 9 2012, 05:07 PM:name=Linksys_Router)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Linksys_Router @ May 9 2012, 05:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934782"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ah... why is that bad? Scared of spam or something?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Privacy probably.

    Recording games lower the fps significantly and you need really high connection to stream so I dont see many people giving first person view at the moment. Synomi up there has a decent aim though definetly check those out.
  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Members
    It's a combo of 4.5ghz cpu and luck.
  • paradoxumparadoxum United Kingdom Join Date: 2012-03-05 Member: 148193Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934791:date=May 9 2012, 08:32 AM:name=Wilson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wilson @ May 9 2012, 08:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934791"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's a combo of 4.5ghz cpu and luck.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    lol.
  • Linksys_RouterLinksys_Router Join Date: 2012-04-11 Member: 150276Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934791:date=May 9 2012, 10:32 AM:name=Wilson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wilson @ May 9 2012, 10:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934791"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's a combo of 4.5ghz cpu and luck.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    4.5 Ghz? Phbbbbbb!<a href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1247413/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-with-ln2-guide-at-the-end" target="_blank"> Try 5.0ghz on air.</a>
  • Champlo0Champlo0 Join Date: 2012-04-17 Member: 150617Members
    It's pretty difficult to record this game, as has been previously stated. The FPS you get from having a good computer is barely enough to support good combat FPS, add FRAPs into the mix and you get slowed significantly (on a side note, don't use Winamp to playback your FRAPs files, it plays them upside down for some reason). A topic previously discussed in the forum was about how FPS and mouse input are linked which will throw off your aim in different combat situations, along with the low FPS. So getting a good computer is definitely vital to having good play with the rifle (the shotgun is easier to aim cause you only need a couple shots for anything less than an Onos and you can just play trigger with it).
  • xDragonxDragon Join Date: 2012-04-04 Member: 149948Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow
    sooo tempted to make troll post...

    Well all ill say is currently there is not alot of skill in NS2, but if you want to learn some of the basics with movement and dodging its probably best to just spectate some players in gathers/such.
  • NammNamm Join Date: 2011-12-08 Member: 137116Members
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-t16YiJJQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-t16YiJJQ</a>

    No but seriously, this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SLCGdD_VK0" target="_blank">skulk walljumping tutorial</a>. A bit outdated, but the same principles. Personally, I just spam the space bar. :P
  • Linksys_RouterLinksys_Router Join Date: 2012-04-11 Member: 150276Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934832:date=May 9 2012, 12:37 PM:name=xDragon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xDragon @ May 9 2012, 12:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934832"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->sooo tempted to make troll post...

    Well all ill say is currently there is not alot of skill in NS2, but if you want to learn some of the basics with movement and dodging its probably best to just spectate some players in gathers/such.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think you could have trolled me, as your new to the forums like me <3
  • xDragonxDragon Join Date: 2012-04-04 Member: 149948Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow
    Lol dont judge by this accounts join date:
    Ive been playing NS1 since its first release on Halloween under one name or another :P
  • .ADHd.ADHd Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146565Members
    edited May 2012
    Hi linksys.

    Once performance gets a little better I will be able to FRAPS my comming and FPS play :). Not to say that I am super l33tzor or anything.

    Heres couple tips that every player should know (And a surprising number of vets don't even know).

    1. Using a parasite on marines with armor 0 will allow you to kill them in only 2 bites rather than 3. Use it.

    2. Avoid walking on infestation if there are props you can jump on (Boxes, railings, etc).

    3. If you hear a skulk coming towards you and you have a short distance and bad angle you should start sprinting in the opposite direction and jump and do a 360 while shooting. You will be able to do more damage to him with more distance between you two. Personally I think this is stupid that marines have to do this, but should be better once hitreg and FPS is higher.

    4. Prefire your grenades if you hear skulks coming, also if you have a jetpack shoot at your feet and take off when skulks are getting close... works so well.

    5. Hunt skulks on powernodes... it's a free kill.

    6. Use vents when on marines... aliens never expect it and you have an advantage in tight long places like a vent.

    7. Don't run off by yourself on marine

    8. Don't get greedy when lerking or fading

    9. Use welders all the time

    10. Pickup dropped weapons, especially if you died close to base.

    11. Click a little earlier than you think with the shotgun. It doesn't fire immediately when you click (I hate this a lot).

    12. Lead skulks with the AR slightly (It's hitscan but doesn't feel like it in current builds)

    13. Don't rush marines with a skulk... wait and ambush

    14. Use pistol secondary while killing skulks on RT's It's accurate, you can shoot through the legs on RT's now, and it only takes 3 bullets to kill a skulk with no carapace with secondary fire.

    15. When an onos is around stay close to vents or areas an onos cannot get into. You can solo an onos pretty easily doing this. (Refinery transfer anybody?)

    16. If you see a socketed yet unbuilt powernode on aliens.. search the area. Marines are nearby.

    17. Listen to good commanders

    18. Watch what good players do.

    19. Master using walljump with the skulk. You can move just as fast with wall jumping as you can with leap. Use a combination of the two to turn the skulk into a killing machine rather than camping class.
  • rhombusrhombus Lerk Queen Join Date: 2011-06-23 Member: 106055Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    I started recording Lerking videos to review and compare later when changes are made to it. I'll encode/upload some tomorrow.
  • LuitjensLuitjens Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 73034Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester
    edited May 2012
    If you like to skulk, I suggest just jumping around like a hooligan in crevice until you get it right, then hit around summit on the nice spots, trust me, it will make you godlike!

    Recording sort of hurts the FPS, degrades my jumping but an example right hurr

    <center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vyFb_6FP2Ao"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vyFb_6FP2Ao" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center>
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