Hydra Limit

EcklifeEcklife Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72446Members
Hey guys I was just wondering if anyone else thought that the 3 hydra limit was too low, I think that 5-6 hydra limit would be good.

I just feel that the gorge is fairly useless at the moment.

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  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    Nope, nobody who matters thought this. Sorry.

    Next!
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    Yes it's too low for how worthless they are.
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    edited May 2012
    Tally chart status:
    2 for
    1 against

    Let's get this to 5 pages boys
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    Yes, let the bickering begin....IE GO!
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    I'd still like to see augmentation increase the cap.
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934288:date=May 7 2012, 09:30 PM:name=MiniH0wie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MiniH0wie @ May 7 2012, 09:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934288"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes, let the bickering begin....IE GO!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Are you for or against this man's completely unexplained idea?
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934283:date=May 7 2012, 08:22 PM:name=MiniH0wie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MiniH0wie @ May 7 2012, 08:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934283"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes it's too low for how worthless they are.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    <!--quoteo(post=1934291:date=May 7 2012, 08:33 PM:name=internetexplorer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (internetexplorer @ May 7 2012, 08:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934291"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Are you for or against this man's completely unexplained idea?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited May 2012
    Somebody needs to make a towerdefence mod for ns2... so ppl that want to chill out behind frontlines building pretty defences can get on their costs a bit more there.
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    There's no need to keep posting, then. Your contribution to the thread has already been registered.

    3:1
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934294:date=May 7 2012, 08:36 PM:name=internetexplorer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (internetexplorer @ May 7 2012, 08:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934294"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There's no need to keep posting, then. Your contribution to the thread has already been registered.

    3:1<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If I'm not mistaken you asked me a question did you not? Your contribution has already been registered too so why are you posting still?
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934297:date=May 7 2012, 09:40 PM:name=MiniH0wie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MiniH0wie @ May 7 2012, 09:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934297"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If I'm not mistaken you asked me a question did you not? Your contribution has already been registered too so why are you posting still?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    *drops gas grenade and flees into the night*
  • MaximumSquidMaximumSquid Join Date: 2010-07-20 Member: 72593Members
    edited May 2012
    <u><b>Ecklife:</b></u>

    Hydras don't kill anything now

    They nerfed the total, they nerfed the placement, and they nerfed how they damage enemies

    Gorge numbers plummeted in pubs

    Usually after I get up a few nodes at the start of the game I just suicide as gorge which makes my hydras disappear

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the total doesn't matter unless you are turtleing which is nothing people are going to vote for after the ARC nerf

    -
  • flyjumflyjum Join Date: 2012-01-07 Member: 139849Members
    I think it should go up +2 per hive that is added
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934328:date=May 7 2012, 10:49 PM:name=flyjum)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (flyjum @ May 7 2012, 10:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934328"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think it should go up +2 per hive that is added<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    it <i>was </i> 3 per previously.
  • assbdaassbda Join Date: 2011-05-02 Member: 96737Members
    someone should make a WoW mod lulz.

    Btw 3's not enough
  • Albe23Albe23 Join Date: 2012-03-24 Member: 149272Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934282:date=May 7 2012, 09:19 PM:name=internetexplorer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (internetexplorer @ May 7 2012, 09:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934282"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Nope, nobody who matters thought this. Sorry.

    Next!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    IE you are my hero...
  • SkugganSkuggan Join Date: 2010-03-19 Member: 71017Members
    We need over 9000 free hydras.
  • _Necro__Necro_ Join Date: 2011-02-15 Member: 81895Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1934347:date=May 8 2012, 06:33 AM:name=Albe23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Albe23 @ May 8 2012, 06:33 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934347"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->IE you are my hero...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Because he is constantly dropping down the tone in the forum? Why do so many of the so called "valued players" have manners like little kids? This is really annoying me lately.

    On the topic:
    Increasing the hydra cap with augmentation, would make this upgrade even more important as it is now. And it has enough benefits right now. But giving 1 hydra per additional hive more, should be balanced. This will make the gorge stronger with more map control, but does not overpower him or allowing him to block more than one way.
  • YuukiYuuki Join Date: 2010-11-20 Member: 75079Members
    The problem is free hydras, hydra limit was introduced because of it. Don't blame the symptoms, blame the cause.
  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    Limits suck all around. If you need them to fix your game, chances are you made a mistake somewhere along the way.
  • TimMcTimMc Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143945Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934340:date=May 7 2012, 11:11 PM:name=assbda)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (assbda @ May 7 2012, 11:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934340"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->someone should make a WoW mod lulz.

    Btw 3's not enough<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah I love Gorge, but 3 is just pathetic. You need six to kill a marine quick enough before he kills you, and thats assuming you put all your Hydras in one place.


    Also need longer range for destroying hydras... I keep reaching my max, then finding I cannot destroy them since they are up a wall too far.
  • XariusXarius Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24630Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited May 2012
    AFAIK it increases later on, now that it is no longer tied to amount of hives. Though that's not in 207 yet, so the 3 hydras max is only temporarily.
  • HozartisHozartis Join Date: 2009-09-01 Member: 68668Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1934371:date=May 8 2012, 03:57 AM:name=player)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (player @ May 8 2012, 03:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1934371"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Limits suck all around. If you need them to fix your game, chances are you made a mistake somewhere along the way.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Truth.

    Not only is there a limit, but the fact that you have to manually go back and dismantle old hydras is even more stupid, clunky, and annoying. One nerf (hydras limited to 3), should have been enough. Then hydra accuracy gets nerfed, and gorge spit gets nerfed.

    I imagine that if you want a combat engineer, and if shooting static structures is boring (it is), then gorge spit should remain strong; it should be less about spamming hydras, and placing good ones quickly, perhaps assisted by the khammander, and pushing forward taking risks.

    If massing gorges and spamming hydras dominates tier 1, then a tier 1 anti-structure weapon should exist for marines (i.e. bring back hand grenades, or mines explode on structures like satchels, etc).
  • ZootZoot Join Date: 2011-01-21 Member: 78469Members
    Agree 3 hydras just isn't enough i think the limit should be 5-6 or have it cost pres again. Also i think it would be cool if gorges could build 1 whip after augmentation to protect their hydra garden from instant GL death.
  • XariusXarius Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24630Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited May 2012
    The gorge should just revolve less around hydras in the first place IMO, and they need to come up with a way to allow hydras to be proper defensive structures without them being spammable (some sort of cooldown?) and imbalanced on 10 p.res gorges (augmentation tech to boost their defensive capabilities + duration increase after gorge dies?).
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