Flamethrower Burns Lerk Gas

GhettOSTyOGhettOSTyO Join Date: 2006-10-12 Member: 58070Members, Reinforced - Gold
in Ideas and Suggestions
An idea for a new use of the flamethrower was to give it the ability to burn lerk gas. In my opinion it would make a nice counter to all the lerk spore spam that seems to be going on. I am not sure how difficult it would be to implement into game but i thought it sounded like a cool suggestion. =)
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  • paradoxumparadoxum United Kingdom Join Date: 2012-03-05 Member: 148193Members
    I thought flamethrowers already did this but last time I tried it nothing happened
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  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    Great idea. It wouldn't even have to do damage, removing spore damage and improving visibility would be plenty.
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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    I think this is already the plan. There was the task on progress tracker about flamethrower burning Spore and Umbra, as well as cause Whip to be unable to whack away grenades.
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  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1922803:date=Apr 7 2012, 03:55 PM:name=PsiWarp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PsiWarp @ Apr 7 2012, 03:55 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1922803"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think this is already the plan. There was the task on progress tracker about flamethrower burning Spore and Umbra, as well as cause Whip to be unable to whack away grenades.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    QFT
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  • profjekyllprofjekyll Join Date: 2012-04-07 Member: 150070Members
    I like the idea. Sounds tricky to impliment though.
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  • zastelszastels Join Date: 2003-11-29 Member: 23731Members
    I don't know if this is a good idea lol.

    If you think about it for two seconds, you'd realize a dude with a flame thrower is going to basically toast all his buddies just to remove the gas around them.

    Seems kinda odd if you ask me.
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  • ArkantiArkanti pub baddie Join Date: 2011-07-22 Member: 111781Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1922933:date=Apr 8 2012, 06:55 AM:name=zastels)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zastels @ Apr 8 2012, 06:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1922933"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't know if this is a good idea lol.

    If you think about it for two seconds, you'd realize a dude with a flame thrower is going to basically toast all his buddies just to remove the gas around them.

    Seems kinda odd if you ask me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    But there's no friendly fire. I suppose it depends on whether the gas combusts as a whole or just evaporates where it's hit by the flamer.
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  • RanakastraszRanakastrasz Join Date: 2012-02-26 Member: 147512Members
    Im pretty sure you can deal friendly fire damage with a flamer and grenade, although It might be limited to yourself.

    In any case, I do think its a good idea to have it counter lerk gas. This, even through a lerk doesnt want to fly near a flamer anyhow, seeing as they tend to get set on fire and burn to death :p
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  • swalkswalk Say hello to my little friend. Join Date: 2011-01-20 Member: 78384Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1922935:date=Apr 7 2012, 09:05 PM:name=Arkanti)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arkanti @ Apr 7 2012, 09:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1922935"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But there's no friendly fire. I suppose it depends on whether the gas combusts as a whole or just evaporates where it's hit by the flamer.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If the spores are trailing(having enough adrenaline, and holding mouse2), I think it should all burn!
    Release mouse2 to prevent the fire catching up to your lerk!
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  • Angry Hillbilly 2Angry Hillbilly 2 Join Date: 2012-03-31 Member: 149741Members
    edited April 2012
    igniting a portion of the lerk gas into a volitile cloud of flame sounds like fun ^^ would certainly make a lerk think twice before going in and getting their ass burnt by their own cloud :P
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  • RanakastraszRanakastrasz Join Date: 2012-02-26 Member: 147512Members
    I would say it should only burn the effected spore nodes, rather than having it spread. That to avoid absurd chain reactions, and to make it less of a total counter.
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  • SewlekSewlek The programmer previously known as Schimmel Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16247Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1922839:date=Apr 7 2012, 12:22 PM:name=profjekyll)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (profjekyll @ Apr 7 2012, 12:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1922839"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I like the idea. Sounds tricky to impliment though.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    it's not too tricky, i just gave it a shot after reading this thread, works quite nice actually and i did not even need to add any hitboxes to spores.
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  • Gorge_LucasGorge_Lucas Join Date: 2011-07-10 Member: 109352Members
    Good idea.

    I've been watching a lot of Competitive Matches lately and the FT is rarely used which is surprising because it is an excellent 'support weapon'. Giving it additional functions like burning fart gas will help justify it's excessive cost.
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  • paradoxumparadoxum United Kingdom Join Date: 2012-03-05 Member: 148193Members
    what if it also burns growth away? or maybe if you light a cyst on fire, as long as it's on fire the growth will retract slowly back into the cyst?
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  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1923325:date=Apr 8 2012, 07:43 PM:name=Gorge_Lucas)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gorge_Lucas @ Apr 8 2012, 07:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1923325"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Good idea.

    I've been watching a lot of Competitive Matches lately and the FT is rarely used which is surprising because it is an excellent 'support weapon'. Giving it additional functions like burning fart gas will help justify it's excessive cost.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    As a small derail, the cost really shouldn't be 30..
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  • TimMcTimMc Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143945Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1923300:date=Apr 8 2012, 03:43 PM:name=Sewlek)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sewlek @ Apr 8 2012, 03:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1923300"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->it's not too tricky, i just gave it a shot after reading this thread, works quite nice actually and i did not even need to add any hitboxes to spores.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice. Going in next build, or not sure that its a good idea yet?
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  • IronsoulIronsoul Join Date: 2011-03-12 Member: 86048Members
    I'm in favour of it simply removing spores, but not igniting. We need to make this game more positive to play people!
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  • ellnicellnic Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72559Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2012
    I can not remember where i read it, but isnt this going to be implamented anyway. I think it is going to be added along with being able to burn Umbra but i am not sure. I am %76.32 possivtive i read about this
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  • profjekyllprofjekyll Join Date: 2012-04-07 Member: 150070Members
    Am sure I was comming a game yesterday where the pesky lerk gas was getting removed with the flamethrower (build 203).

    I think this is an excellent idea: now we have a way to kill lerk gas, can we please also have a way of killing the invincible lerks?
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  • SkyPirateSkyPirate Join Date: 2012-02-19 Member: 146845Members
    good idea but aliens should also have something like, aliens on fire get extinguished by healing spore, if that isn't already implemented.
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  • SewlekSewlek The programmer previously known as Schimmel Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16247Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1923335:date=Apr 8 2012, 08:38 PM:name=TimMc)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TimMc @ Apr 8 2012, 08:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1923335"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Nice. Going in next build, or not sure that its a good idea yet?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    i made an effect for it, cory likes it, and it works 'acceptable'. so chances are high :)
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  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Nice!
    The efect is very well done and looks queiet ok.
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  • SolitarioSolitario Join Date: 2006-10-29 Member: 58097Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1923857:date=Apr 10 2012, 07:42 PM:name=Sewlek)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sewlek @ Apr 10 2012, 07:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1923857"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i made an effect for it, cory likes it, and it works 'acceptable'. so chances are high :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeee-haaa, please DO IT!
    I had the same idea some time ago, lovin' it!
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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    Sounds sweet! Would this apply to "Ink Cloud" as well, when it is implemented?
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  • profjekyllprofjekyll Join Date: 2012-04-07 Member: 150070Members
    Perhaps the welding torch could also be a counter? Maybe grens could clear it too?
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  • MakoMako Join Date: 2011-07-04 Member: 107766Members
    maybe we assign a new button to marines called 'waft' where you see your hands come up and swipe away small sections of the gas in a 'who just farted' fashion. This would be a localised 'aura' like effect that provides a pocket of safety from teh gas. Of course if the gas is still above you and dropping you must repededly hit waft to prevent this going up your nose.
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  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1924379:date=Apr 11 2012, 07:24 PM:name=Mako)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mako @ Apr 11 2012, 07:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1924379"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->maybe we assign a new button to marines called 'waft' where you see your hands come up and swipe away small sections of the gas in a 'who just farted' fashion. This would be a localised 'aura' like effect that provides a pocket of safety from teh gas. Of course if the gas is still above you and dropping you must repededly hit waft to prevent this going up your nose.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or we could not give all marines the instant ability to completely ignore the effects of an opponent's risky attack run, and could instead develop the skill to dodge out of the gas like you already can.
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  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    Next stop: spores that take on momentum so using them isn't so risky
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  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1924389:date=Apr 11 2012, 07:38 PM:name=internetexplorer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (internetexplorer @ Apr 11 2012, 07:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1924389"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Next stop: spores that take on momentum so using them isn't so risky<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I support it, but in limited strength; one of the reasons Spore can do all the things it does is because it's risky to lay down. I think you should be able to gas a doorway without entering it, but that's about as far as it should go.
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  • MakoMako Join Date: 2011-07-04 Member: 107766Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1924383:date=Apr 12 2012, 10:32 AM:name=Techercizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Techercizer @ Apr 12 2012, 10:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1924383"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Or we could not give all marines the instant ability to completely ignore the effects of an opponent's risky attack run, and could instead develop the skill to dodge out of the gas like you already can.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    im taking that as a +1 for waft
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