Welder vs Axe

TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
<div class="IPBDescription">What, if any, is the damage difference?</div>If anyone happens to have heard from UWE or seen in the game code what the damage difference (type, per-hit, rate...etc) between the welder and axe is, I'd very much appreciate the information. I've always enjoyed helping out my fellow marines by welding armor, but I do a <i>lot</i> of axing as a marine.

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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    30 damage at fire rate of 0.45 for Welder, 30 damage (x2 vs structures) at fire rate of 0.6 for Switch-Ax.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited February 2012
    So the welder is 2/3 as effective at structure killing? Maaan. Way to give us tough choices UWE :x

    Edit: does that .6 swing rate include the long break between each double-hit of the axe?
  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    edited February 2012
    ^- That I'm not sure, I'm not familiar with the lua functions and whatnot, just the balance numbers :P

    Also, I really like how Welder can increase the health of unbuilt structures but does not construct them, so you can buddy up with several 'rines for building and quickly increase its HP simultaneously!
  • endarendar Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73256Members, Squad Five Blue
    marine vs a hive, with no crags around

    level 0 weapons:
    Ax: 46 seconds
    Welder: 91 seconds

    Level 3 weapons:
    Ax 36 seconds
    Welder 71 seconds
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1906736:date=Feb 24 2012, 07:43 PM:name=endar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (endar @ Feb 24 2012, 07:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1906736"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->marine vs a hive, with no crags around

    level 0 weapons:
    Ax: 46 seconds
    Welder: 91 seconds

    Level 3 weapons:
    Ax 36 seconds
    Welder 71 seconds<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is that just holding down m1 for both, or doing the fast-click on the axe?

    Either way, thanks for the info. I think I'm keeping the axe for most of the game.
  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Members
    Wow, weapons upgrades increase the damage of the axe. Who knew?
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1906738:date=Feb 24 2012, 07:46 PM:name=Wilson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wilson @ Feb 24 2012, 07:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1906738"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wow, weapons upgrades increase the damage of the axe. Who knew?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I did. Un-upgraded, the axe takes off 10% of a cyst per hit, leaving 1-2% percent left from the regeneration after you hit it ten times. Upgraded, it goes down swiftly and you take more than 10% off per hit.
  • endarendar Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73256Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1906737:date=Feb 25 2012, 12:45 PM:name=Techercizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Techercizer @ Feb 25 2012, 12:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1906737"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is that just holding down m1 for both, or doing the fast-click on the axe?

    Either way, thanks for the info. I think I'm keeping the axe for most of the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That was holding down M1 for both. Also the welder has a bit of delay or something when it fires up.
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1906738:date=Feb 24 2012, 05:46 PM:name=Wilson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wilson @ Feb 24 2012, 05:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1906738"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wow, weapons upgrades increase the damage of the axe. Who knew?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It invests in a better grindstone for sharper axes, clearly.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1906742:date=Feb 24 2012, 08:02 PM:name=endar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (endar @ Feb 24 2012, 08:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1906742"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That was holding down M1 for both. Also the welder has a bit of delay or something when it fires up.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thanks a ton. No way I'm making the mistake of using welder for anything offensive now :3
  • ogzogz Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9765Members
    surely welding an ono has to be at hte top of the list :p
  • LV426-ColonistLV426-Colonist Space Jockey Join Date: 2011-08-05 Member: 114269Members, Constellation
    Oh man. Axe or welder?!

    Decisions, decisions....
  • sam8ucasam8uca Join Date: 2011-02-11 Member: 81359Members
    Not had chance to play this build, is the welder a pRes cost?

    It would be nice if it was a starting load out option versus the axe, leaving pRes for standard weapons.
  • assbdaassbda Join Date: 2011-05-02 Member: 96737Members
    In the servers i play on people just use their shotguns for structures lol.
    I dont think aus/nz will have any problem deciding axe or welder
  • endarendar Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73256Members, Squad Five Blue
    Ax is faster than shotgun, unless you ignore reloading, so ax down to 25 and then shoot? I wonder what the exact number is.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    I think Axe is quicker than Shotgun even without reloading, if you quick-click it to swing.
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