Delayed Damage Indicator

Wolpertinger

WHEN WILL YOU GET RID OF IT?

Seriously, who thought this would be a good idea? We need to know our health IMMEDIATELY!

endar

I actually agree with this. The rate at which a marine or even an alien vs a shotgun can lose damage, its very unhelpful to have a chunk of your health go, and then the health circle around the numbers slowly degrades like it actually an analog piece of tech monitoring our health. Surely the marines HUD has a powerful enough system to show this stuff instantly.

2sBlind

Yes very annoying. I always used to think it was because of my low frames... Either way, it needs to go.

Wolpertinger

I will bump this ###### until Charlie finally removes the delay.

Align

Yes, at the very least it should be an option (default to on for the "wowing newbies" factor I guess)
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I seriously doubt trying to force your opinion through will make the devs listen more closely.

Tweadle

+1 OP

LuKe

+1

BearTaxi

This. And they need to make it that pressing 'esc' gets you out of the options menu that pressing 'esc' gets you in to, instead of having to click 'Return'.

unkind

+1 yes it really needs to be instant.

Yuuki

Do you really think there is an artificial delay ? That would be stupid. Might be just lag.

Wolpertinger

<!--quoteo(post=1899840:date=Feb 5 2012, 11:01 AM:name=Yuuki)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Yuuki @ Feb 5 2012, 11:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1899840"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Do you really think there is an artificial delay ? That would be stupid. Might be just lag.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Your current health is not displayed immediately after you took damage. It takes a few miliseconds for the health bar to lower to the proper amount. Depending on the amount of damage, it can even be more than a second. And this is crucial for your orientation and way of playing, because you might think that you still have almost full health when in fact you are suddenly almost dead because of a few bullets, etc., but you don't retreat.

endar

<!--quoteo(post=1899840:date=Feb 5 2012, 09:01 PM:name=Yuuki)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Yuuki @ Feb 5 2012, 09:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1899840"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Do you really think there is an artificial delay ? That would be stupid. Might be just lag.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There definitely is, watch some videos to see it. It's a very "console" effect.

Yuuki

You're right, it's not a hard-coded delay but a smoothing, which also introduce a delay :

<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->    local healthBarPercentageGoal = PlayerUI_GetPlayerHealth() / PlayerUI_GetPlayerMaxHealth()
    self.healthBarPercentage = Slerp(self.healthBarPercentage, healthBarPercentageGoal, deltaTime * GUIAlienHUD.kBarMoveRate)<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->

The smoothing rate is very low, which means it's reacts slowly. Increase a lot the smoothing rate should solve the problem, or remove the smoothing completly :

<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->    self.healthBarPercentage = PlayerUI_GetPlayerHealth() / PlayerUI_GetPlayerMaxHealth()<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->

IronHorse

quick yuuki: make a video demonstrating!

do we even need smoothing? sounds silly.

Smasher

If you got your arm cut off it's not like you would "slowly lose it over time", but rather having it fall off instantly, just saying..
(i.e. +1 to OP)

endar

Thank Yuuki, will begin using this tonight!

saltybp53

This applies to death as well. I've shot enough rounds at skulks to kill them, but they don't die instantly.

Dghelneshi

I've put together a client side mod making energy, health and armor displays nearly instantly update. I also removed the annoying scanlines on the marine HUD (I was looking at the marine HUD files for hours so I did that along the way while I tried fixing the delay/smoothing). Will make a post on the mod forums later today, don't have the time right now.

<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=116254" target="_blank">Link to Instant HUD Thread</a>