Wondering why...

ZurikiZuriki Join Date: 2010-11-20 Member: 75105Members
in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">"Missing" features</div>I'm wondering why UWE hasn't included things such as the Onos, Catpacks, Jetpacks and the sort yet. We can pretty much guaruntee they have the art assets, and the basis for the code is already there, some tweaks and fixes and you could have it in game in a matter of a few days. So why isn't the game feature complete already? Don't say it's to do with bug fixing, because whilst there are lots of bugs to be fixed. Trickling in new features is only going to cause more problems.

Also, balance, everyone complains about balance. The main counter argument for this is nothing is in place, but this doesn't stop the developers from tweaking the balance only to then screw it up pretty badly next feature update (see 179 to 181 or (40/60 to 30/70 W/L ratio)). Well, if we had everything in this kind of silly counter argument wouldn't be an issue, because everything WOULD be in, and balancing would be a breeze because how can you ###### up balance with new features if everything is already in the game?

I also have this nagging feeling I read somewhere they're saving Onos for "1.0", I think this is a horrible idea. You take a game that should be feature complete and add a new completely untested feature and tell the kids to have at it. Potentially driving customers away because you, take a second here, ###### up the balance! Again! (Though, fairs fair, if they didn't actually say they were going to do this).
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  • RanemanRaneman Join Date: 2010-01-07 Member: 69962Members
    Excuse me, but what are catpacks? Are they boxes of free kittens the comm can drop on the marines?
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Catalyst...
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  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Members
    Making a game takes time.
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  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    Sorry but your post is kind of arrogant. This is a product they are making to sell, it isn't a public service and they shouldn't have to keep seeing these kind of accusatory threads. They have made it clear what you bought access to was an engine test/alpha/beta, and the release version when it is ready. Obviously, like most of us, you don't know much about game development so instead of making posts with this demanding tone, why not read the posts made by the UWE devs who have addressed everything you said many times.

    These threads have been pinned in this section of the forum, you should read them.

    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=113993" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=113993</a>

    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=112494" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=112494</a>


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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Because they haven't perfected cloning Max.......yet!
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  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    edited August 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1866518:date=Aug 5 2011, 01:42 AM:name=Zuriki)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zuriki @ Aug 5 2011, 01:42 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1866518"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm wondering why UWE hasn't included things such as the Onos, Catpacks, Jetpacks and the sort yet. We can pretty much guaruntee they have the art assets, and the basis for the code is already there, some tweaks and fixes and you could have it in game in a matter of a few days.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Please don't make assumptions about how long things take. If it was that easy and fast, everything would be in the game by now.
    <!--quoteo(post=1866518:date=Aug 5 2011, 01:42 AM:name=Zuriki)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zuriki @ Aug 5 2011, 01:42 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1866518"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I also have this nagging feeling I read somewhere they're saving Onos for "1.0", I think this is a horrible idea.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You did not read that anywhere, because it was never stated by any dev. The Onos will be in looong before 1.0 release, don't worry.

    As others have stated, all of the reasoning behind why the later tech tier game assets have not been added yet has been stated many times in many threads, so please do some searching around for the answers. Thanks.

    --Cory
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  • SilverwingSilverwing bulletsponge Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23395Members, Constellation
    Uh, Cory... Is that a banjo I hear?
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  • ZycaRZycaR Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8263Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1866519:date=Aug 4 2011, 09:44 PM:name=Raneman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Raneman @ Aug 4 2011, 09:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1866519"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Excuse me, but what are catpacks? Are they boxes of free kittens the comm can drop on the marines?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <img src="http://www.freespiritart.com/images/six-pack-braldt-bralds.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • IactoIacto Join Date: 2010-11-23 Member: 75209Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1866574:date=Aug 5 2011, 09:20 AM:name=ZycaR)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ZycaR @ Aug 5 2011, 09:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1866574"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><img src="http://www.freespiritart.com/images/six-pack-braldt-bralds.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Cory, put these in the game now. Right now.
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  • whoppaXXLwhoppaXXL Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58298Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1866574:date=Aug 5 2011, 12:20 AM:name=ZycaR)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ZycaR @ Aug 5 2011, 12:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1866574"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><img src="http://www.freespiritart.com/images/six-pack-braldt-bralds.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <img src="http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/15/asddsadasads.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    Think twice about that!
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  • RebellionEliteRebellionElite Join Date: 2011-07-27 Member: 112530Members
    I just LoLed pretty loudly at that Whoppa.

    Also OP, that was an Ignorant post, please refrain from making ignorant posts in the future. Thank you.
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  • Jason WhoreJason Whore Join Date: 2011-04-11 Member: 92514Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1866519:date=Aug 5 2011, 03:44 AM:name=Raneman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Raneman @ Aug 5 2011, 03:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1866519"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Excuse me, but what are catpacks? Are they boxes of free kittens the comm can drop on the marines?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    +1 on actual catpacks :3
    like kittens come out and run towards marines and purr and go around your legs and hide when aliens come and you can kick them but you also can like pick them up and snuggle them.
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  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    If you use cheats, you'll see that catpacks are basically done. The only bug is once you run over a catpack, the effect never wears off. Fix that, and they're good to go. They also need a new model, as they use ammopacks right now, but there is a sound for it already. Catpacks would help the marines right now, so go ahead and finish them up UWE! It's almost there.
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  • KalabalanaKalabalana Join Date: 2003-11-14 Member: 22859Members
    I'd like some user control on catpacks, some sort of way to have a cat pack on standby and enable it when you want.
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  • ZycaRZycaR Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8263Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1866718:date=Aug 5 2011, 01:59 PM:name=Kalabalana)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kalabalana @ Aug 5 2011, 01:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1866718"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd like some user control on catpacks, some sort of way to have a cat pack on standby and enable it when you want.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Something like handgrenade in NS1? ... unbox personal catpack .. and use:
    <img src="http://commentstash.com/cat-pictures/Pack_Of_Cat_njXkU-m6jHV3M9SlL1wJQ.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • Boxer`DBoxer`D Join Date: 2011-07-27 Member: 112532Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1866519:date=Aug 4 2011, 09:44 PM:name=Raneman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Raneman @ Aug 4 2011, 09:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1866519"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Excuse me, but what are catpacks? Are they boxes of free kittens the comm can drop on the marines?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    hahahaha
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