Idea's for the Shotgun ALT Attack?
vizioNz
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Maybe even a "push back" type of melee. Current the LMG just hits the enemy with the "butt" of the rifle. If the shotgun connects with the Melee it, it's sends the Alien class (depending on its size) sliding backwards (a cool little animation similar to if someone kicked you in the stomach in real life?). Obviously an Onos would slide next to nothing heh. This will cause a slight blur on the Aliens screen and a slight delay on the Marine being able to shoot of a shell.
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Nah, srsly I'm not sure if it really needs an alt fire. What for? It's fine.
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Nah, srsly I'm not sure if it really needs an alt fire. What for? It's fine.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Every gun needs an Alternative fire. Being an avid hunted, every rifle, shotgun, pistol, bow, etc. has some type of alternative fire. Those that done, are usually those that aren't as fun to shoot :)
Better, just throw the shells! That will teach them some manners!
The Flare can blind the Aliens similar to the Hive's flare ability. Very few people actually use the Flare/Umbra capabilities while being an Alien Commander. Having the capability to distort the Aliens view with a flare would be a great feature.
I personally hate anything that takes control of my char or blinds/effects my vision. Stealth will be a big player in coming patches. I will revisit my suggestion then hehe.
*stealthed skulks bites you in the butt one to many times and you will wish my the RisingSun Flare Gun!* lol
*stealthed skulks bites you in the butt one to many times and you will wish my the RisingSun Flare Gun!* lol<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Motion Track > Sensory Stealth.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e107SMxvdCg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e107SMxvdCg</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8niD-n0lHk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8niD-n0lHk</a> @1:25
The Idea is not bad, though 'realistically' the light should not affect the aliens, it's all over the map and in effect it should blind the marines, too.
This is far-fetched, but a high pitch sound only heard by aliens that disorient them would make more sense in that way. But I'm talking about scientific gibberish here.. Every Idea that would make sense gaming wise makes no sense shotgun wise for me.
Let's say the TSA know that the Aliens aren't dumb. Everyone in battle wins usually with a good placed first feint.
Right click simulates a shot, but does not use any shells, with would aliens make pretty carefree when they think the marine has actually to reload.
Though: Overusing and permanent "empty shots" could be the consequence. Also it means pretty low impact on the average player psychology.
sorry thought I edited the above post
Yes it can, it can only not see a Stealth unit that is NOT moving. HENCE the word "Motion" tracking.
Why not replace the shotty with a kitchen sink, too overpowered perhaps?
This is far-fetched, but a high pitch sound only heard by aliens that disorient them would make more sense in that way. But I'm talking about scientific gibberish here.. Every Idea that would make sense gaming wise makes no sense shotgun wise for me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It needs to be effective towards Aliens and the best way to do that is distort their Alien view or cause a quick and short flash on the Aliens normal view screen. Right now, to be completely honest with you, the Alien view is like Wallhacks in HL1. No, you can't see through walls, but Marine trying to hide in a corner and complete a ninja rush (which were amazingly fun and awesome in NS1 public servers) is no longer possible. Motion tracking will assist the Marines ability to track Aliens better, but it is no where as equal to the Alien view.
What I propose!
Marines that are actively moving and basically "building up body heat" are currently viewed as they are now. However, when a Marine stops or slows down, the tint of their body in Alien viewis drastically dimmed down causing them to be able to "hide" and sneak under the Radar. Similar to a Stealth Alien walking within a Sensory location.
What not replace your post with someone constructive to this conversation? To much to ask perhaps? :)
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What I propose!
Marines that are actively moving and basically "building up body heat" are currently viewed as they are now. However, when a Marine stops or slows down, the tint of their body in Alien view and drastically dimmed down causing them to be able to "hide" and sneak under the Radar. Similar to a Stealth Alien walking within a Sensory location.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
didnt scroll enough to see this little Gem either. Alien vision isnt OP and not all aliens keep it on 24/7. I only use it briefly to check a dark room. Other than that i dont use it because i like seeing the lighting and using the shadows. This "Building up body heat" it unneeded and excessive. I would use the processing required to track your body heat for gorges pooping randomly like horses to make marines slip. Marines arent encouraged to rambo around. Groups are the most effective and are to be promoted subtly. Plus ninjas are the best later in the game when the marines are focusing on one end of the map and a solo guy runs to the other side where no aliens usually are.
<!--QuoteBegin-visionz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (visionz)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What I propose!
Marines that are actively moving and basically "building up body heat" are currently viewed as they are now. However, when a Marine stops or slows down, the tint of their body in Alien view and drastically dimmed down causing them to be able to "hide" and sneak under the Radar. Similar to a Stealth Alien walking within a Sensory location.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I see your point! But mostly all that can be enhanced on the shotty is either a passive ability (which takes the skill from the player and mostly is getting on the nerves of the aliens), does not make sense (in the needlessly complicated sense) with the realistically seen shotgun situation OR gaming wise.
Hard nut right here. :)
Maybe there still will come some good Ideas for discussion.
<!--quoteo(post=1866419:date=Aug 4 2011, 02:34 PM:name=Hakujin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hakujin @ Aug 4 2011, 02:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1866419"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Frankly I think you guys are overdoing most of these ideas. What is wrong with a simple melee attack just like the LMG?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good point, but kinda lack luster. Another rifle butt would be a little redundant.
+1 to the kitchen sink
How many times are you going to edit your post till you make it sound right? Lol, the point is, motion tracking will counter sensory andbuilding a simple observatory drop always negated sensory chambers in important locations.
Stop trying to get in a pssing match with me. Your originally statement wasn't entirely correct, so I corrected you. Let it go. Let's stick to the subject of this thread, thanks!