Give the Turrets AMMO
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Join Date: 2010-04-01 Member: 71145Members
Join Date: 2010-04-01 Member: 71145Members
<div class="IPBDescription">refillable offcourse</div>Just like in TF2 every turret should have a set amount of ammo. It would balance the " kill the right cyst and my whole line of hydra's die" issue.
Marine's can refill it with there own ammo. so an Armory would be nice in that certain room. would solve the turret spam if seen lately. Also raises the problem if a squad is on route to a destination, to preserve ammo or refill any turret they find on there way there.
However the progress report said there where gonna do something with the turrets in 181.
Marine's can refill it with there own ammo. so an Armory would be nice in that certain room. would solve the turret spam if seen lately. Also raises the problem if a squad is on route to a destination, to preserve ammo or refill any turret they find on there way there.
However the progress report said there where gonna do something with the turrets in 181.
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I doubt that I will like it thought, I never really been fond with towerdefence games where you had to refill your turrets ammo (with a few exceptions, anyone ever tried that <a href="http://www.kongregate.com/games/whiteboardwar/creeper-world-training-sim?acomplete=creeper" target="_blank">Creeper World Training</a> td?).
I doubt that I will like it thought, I never really been fond with towerdefence games where you had to refill your turrets ammo (with a few exceptions, anyone ever tried that <a href="http://www.kongregate.com/games/whiteboardwar/creeper-world-training-sim?acomplete=creeper" target="_blank">Creeper World Training</a> td?).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You just cost me 15$ - but in a good way :)
Edit: Actually, the way they did it in creeper world could work quite well for the alien Hydras.
In other words, you cut of the cyst supply to the hydra it will still be able to shoot if it has been standing there for a while - but it will run out of "bullets" eventually.
As it stands it adds annoying micro as stated, but more importantly it doesn't affect their performance at all, it just adds a negligible running cost to them.
As it stands it adds annoying micro as stated, but more importantly it doesn't affect their performance at all, it just adds a negligible running cost to them.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So, having sentries overheat? That would be ok, but it'd just encourage spam.
Frankly, I think the B180 sentries would work as long as
1. Gorge bilebomb was easier to get and more useful (i.e. shoots straight instead of in an arc)
2. The onos was included
Frankly, I think the B180 sentries would work as long as
1. Gorge bilebomb was easier to get and more useful (i.e. shoots straight instead of in an arc)
2. The onos was included<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Turrets by their very nature encourage spam, you have a thing that shoots bullets at bad guys, more things that shoot bullets at bad guys are better than fewer, therefore spam.
The only way you can discourage spam is by doing something like a hard cap with diminishing effectiveness, encouraging people to spread their turrets out, but then you need some reason why turrets would work less well the more you have in an area.
By that I mean, having them dish out tremendous amounts of damage, but make them VERY limited when it comes to how many you can place.
The way I see it, I would like to consider the turret to be like a super player when it comes to survivability and firepower - and not some dinky aluminum bullet hose that can be chomped down with ease unless the entire floor, and in some cases walls, are covered with similar dinky aluminum bullet hoses.
I like the idea someone posted somewhere else on the forums about 1-2 per res node OR 3-4 per com chair.
If you lose the "connected" res node or com chair the linked turrets go offline.
By this limit to numbers, the actual usefulness of the turrets can be buffed - both in damage, health and price(increase) - and that would encourage strategic placing of the turrets, instead of the current spammy nature of them.
The commander would have an overview inside the turret icon of how many turrets are placed and how many he can place in total. (such as "5/6" would mean he has placed 5 and can place 1 more to reach 6). Should some turrets go offline due to losing it's "source"(CC or RT) it would with the previous example in mind display 5/4(assuming the marines get 2 turret slots per RT), where the number 5 would be put emphasis on, such as red text, extra illumination or anything to make the com understand why he can't place more turrets.
The affected turret(s) would get a hovering icon indicating they are out of power.
For aliens tehy should do womething similiar, e.g.: the Gorge is only allowed to drop 5-10 hydras or the same style like the idea before with the mariens, Gorges can drop 2 more hydras per res node + 4 for every hive. that would stop that hydra spaming as well :). + all in all res nodes would be even more important then.