First time player with a graphics question

TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
Hi there, I've been watching NS2 for a while now, and after getting computer I think I can play it on, I've decided to jump right in and give it a shot. Recently I played my first game (well, part of it, since NS2.exe crashed halfway through), but I had an interesting inability to see my allied Marines. I could see and shoot at hostiles just fine, but whenever a fellow marine was near, all I saw was the gun he was holding sliding along the ground. I thought I was alone until one of them started using the flamethrower on some DI.

My question to you who are more experienced is thus: Is this normal? Have you heard of this before? Any idea what is causing it? I've searched through the forums and Get Satisfaction to no avail.

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  • mokkatmokkat Join Date: 2009-08-30 Member: 68652Members
    haven't heard about that error yet. 4xxx series radeon card by any chance?
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1852629:date=Jun 14 2011, 01:31 PM:name=mokkat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mokkat @ Jun 14 2011, 01:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852629"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->haven't heard about that error yet. 4xxx series radeon card by any chance?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    GTX450 actually. I've been meaning to get a 470, but my old one RMAd and went out of stock where I bought it at the same time.
  • mokkatmokkat Join Date: 2009-08-30 Member: 68652Members
    I would have thought it to be an issue with the older tech radeon cards and newer drivers.

    You should try uninstalling NS2, changing to another country to download from in the steam settings, and install the game again - to prevent corruption when installing. And of course installing the newest graphic driver, if you didnt already
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1852632:date=Jun 14 2011, 01:51 PM:name=mokkat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mokkat @ Jun 14 2011, 01:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852632"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I would have thought it to be an issue with the older tech radeon cards and newer drivers.

    You should try uninstalling NS2, changing to another country to download from in the steam settings, and install the game again - to prevent corruption when installing. And of course installing the newest graphic driver, if you didnt already<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Trying that now
  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1852630:date=Jun 14 2011, 01:40 PM:name=Techercizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Techercizer @ Jun 14 2011, 01:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852630"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->GTX450 actually. I've been meaning to get a 470, but my old one RMAd and went out of stock where I bought it at the same time.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You would probably be better off waiting for the 600 series cards to come out in the forth quarter and buying a 570 after prices drop.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited June 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1852649:date=Jun 14 2011, 02:53 PM:name=Sops)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sops @ Jun 14 2011, 02:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852649"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You would probably be better off waiting for the 600 series cards to come out in the forth quarter and buying a 570 after prices drop.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm slightly worried that some damage to my graphics card could be what's causing this bug though; If that's the case, I don't want to be stuck out of NS2 for 2 seasons or find myself unable to boot one day.

    Plus, I may also wind up getting a 480, which I hear is basically a 580 with some nice price deductions.
  • marsvinmarsvin Join Date: 2011-03-22 Member: 87920Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1852650:date=Jun 14 2011, 09:59 PM:name=Techercizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Techercizer @ Jun 14 2011, 09:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852650"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm slightly worried that some damage to my graphics card could be what's causing this bug though; If that's the case, I don't want to be stuck out of NS2 for 2 seasons or find myself unable to boot one day.

    Plus, I may also wind up getting a 480, which I hear is basically a 580 with some nice price deductions.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    For my own experience I've seen plenty of glitches but nothing like what you describe. It seems very specific for a hardware error but I guess it's possible. If I'm not mistaken some of NS2HD's videos were recorded with a 450 including some of his build 178 casts. So the card/drivers themselves should be fine.
  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Did this happen to be on the map ns2_tram? I get all kinds of weird graphics anomalies on that map, but rockdown and summit play flawlessly.
  • gamester_5gamester_5 Join Date: 2008-04-17 Member: 64094Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1852660:date=Jun 14 2011, 01:40 PM:name=Quovatis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quovatis @ Jun 14 2011, 01:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852660"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Did this happen to be on the map ns2_tram? I get all kinds of weird graphics anomalies on that map, but rockdown and summit play flawlessly.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    +1. Tram is still bugged for me as well
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited June 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1852660:date=Jun 14 2011, 03:40 PM:name=Quovatis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quovatis @ Jun 14 2011, 03:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852660"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Did this happen to be on the map ns2_tram? I get all kinds of weird graphics anomalies on that map, but rockdown and summit play flawlessly.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I am literally fresh off the Steam download. There was a West wing, Marine and Alien start (obviously), and I took down a hive that was perched over a depression in the floor that glowed blue. That's about all I got before NS2.exe crashed.

    I didn't even get the layout down because there was already a Portal up when I joined.

    <i>Edit:That reinstall has now allowed me to see my fellow players and play 2 rounds without a crash in sight. Combat does seem to stutter/teleport a lot even though my FPS is fine, but from what I've read, that's a server optimization issue, not a client one.</i>
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    I swear the GT* 4** series of cards must be bugged. Did you get anything like this? <a href="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=189039&st=0&gopid=1250764&#entry1250764" target="_blank">http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtop...p;#entry1250764</a>
  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    Nope; although I think Max posted about something like that once (sorry, you'd need to search his posts).

    My first thought though is that is the card too hot? Maybe its graphics distortion *shrug*
  • jkflipflopjkflipflop Join Date: 2010-10-13 Member: 74423Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1852854:date=Jun 14 2011, 07:53 PM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Jun 14 2011, 07:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852854"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I swear the GT* 4** series of cards must be bugged. Did you get anything like this? <a href="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=189039&st=0&gopid=1250764&#entry1250764" target="_blank">http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtop...p;#entry1250764</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Your video card is overheating. More specifically it's one or more of the ram modules on the card. Either your heatsink isn't properly seated or the card has warped from too many thermal cycles.
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    edited June 2011
    :/ Just bought the thing. Well, "just" from my point of view. I'll double-check the heatsink when I upgrade soon (replacing everything <i>except</i> the video card) but most of the time it's only ever occurred in NS2. That HoN glitch actually went away after I shut down (powered down and off, not reset) the PC. Not so for NS2 - continues to persist. It's possible the card itself is screwed, in which case I hope it's still covered by some sort of warranty, but it seems to be a relatively common issue...
  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    Maybe check the temperature of the card (a few programs let you do this) and find out what the norm is?
  • jkflipflopjkflipflop Join Date: 2010-10-13 Member: 74423Members
    edited June 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1852862:date=Jun 14 2011, 08:13 PM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Jun 14 2011, 08:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852862"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->:/ Just bought the thing. Well, "just" from my point of view. I'll double-check the heatsink when I upgrade soon (replacing everything <i>except</i> the video card) but most of the time it's only ever occurred in NS2. That HoN glitch actually went away after I shut down (powered down and off, not reset) the PC. Not so for NS2 - continues to persist. It's possible the card itself is screwed, in which case I hope it's still covered by some sort of warranty, but it seems to be a relatively common issue...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Build 176 had a glitch where only the Lerk model looked like that for me on my 470 system. Everything else was fine but Lerks were just huge jumbles of brown polygons. Was very annoying.

    I would suggest SpeedFan from Almoco. It has a graphing function so you can see what your card was doing while you were ingame.
  • TravCarpTravCarp Join Date: 2010-06-04 Member: 71962Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=1852862:date=Jun 14 2011, 11:13 PM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Jun 14 2011, 11:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852862"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->:/ Just bought the thing. Well, "just" from my point of view. I'll double-check the heatsink when I upgrade soon (replacing everything <i>except</i> the video card) but most of the time it's only ever occurred in NS2. That HoN glitch actually went away after I shut down (powered down and off, not reset) the PC. Not so for NS2 - continues to persist. It's possible the card itself is screwed, in which case I hope it's still covered by some sort of warranty, but it seems to be a relatively common issue...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yaa <3 HoN!
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