First person effect needed when you die

Plasma

Hey,

It's been on my mind for a while; but when you die (especially as a marine) you dont get much feedback.

Maybe your screen should blacken out for a split moment, or you should 'fall' to the ground (instead of the camera just stopping where you were at eye level)?

Something subtle like that I think would be handy to see.

Typhon

It would be pretty cool if the camera followed the ragdoll's head as it falls to the ground.

aeroripper

Wouldn't mind experimenting with the method from NS1 where the camera is attached to your first person head. It might get really disorienting though so hard to say without testing it.

SiniStarR

then of course you have those times where your ragdoll's legs go flying and fling you across the room. Its got GMOD written all over it XD

PsiWarp

I like this as well. Imagine yourself as a Skulk, dropping to the ground after a surprise shotgun and vision slowly fading as the Marine waltz by, then new life as an egg!

Of course, there are those times when your ragdoll spazzes out...

Jason Whore

Oh yeah totally ! but also i want to see my legs when i'm alive.. elsewise its like. .. he shot me OH WTF WHERE DO THESE LEGS COME FROM ??
and yeah.. falling to the ground, head hitting hard maybe bounce a litle, fade to black, noises get muffled.... darkness... bright blue light in a distance, comes closer. BÄM ! respawn at IP ! or for aliens... slowly black getting brighter, brown town.. slowly vision gets clear, in egg. hatch. :3

Dank McShwagger

the effect from the teaser trailer after the door knocks out the marine is pretty cool. maybe a quick black out then blurred vision that eventually fades to black.

Kouji_San

<!--quoteo(post=1851386:date=Jun 10 2011, 02:46 AM:name=aeroripper)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (aeroripper @ Jun 10 2011, 02:46 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1851386"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wouldn't mind experimenting with the method from NS1 where the camera is attached to your first person head. It might get really disorienting though so hard to say without testing it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Does it matter though. I mean you're dead, you can't do much about it after this fact of *ehm* life? :P

BarerRudeROC

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I, and many others despised this effect in AvP.
The cinematic effect becomes very annoying after a while.

Play a few multiplayer matches of AvP and you'll get the jist of it

TravCarp

Just do it like any other fps, when you die you watch your teammates for the time you're waiting. It's like having vision around the map, than you can assess the situation from there. No need to go make new ###### when the stuff already out works perfectly.

Atleast pre v1.0 ;-)

TychoCelchuuu

I think if you die in the game you should die in real life.

Vladimir Van Vodka

<!--quoteo(post=1851656:date=Jun 11 2011, 04:14 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TychoCelchuuu @ Jun 11 2011, 04:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1851656"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think if you die in the game you should die in real life.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yes, I'm immortal anyways. does this mean I get godmode hax?

Wiltdog

<!--quoteo(post=1851656:date=Jun 10 2011, 05:44 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TychoCelchuuu @ Jun 10 2011, 05:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1851656"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think if you die in the game you should die in real life.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Hell, I STILL run faster when I have my knife out.

Tig

i would like the camera to go red overlay and the camera to freeze and snap to my body so i can see my physics ragdoll bounce off the floor and other objects.

Harimau

<!--quoteo(post=1851571:date=Jun 11 2011, 02:29 AM:name=BarerRudeROC)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarerRudeROC @ Jun 11 2011, 02:29 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1851571"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I, and many others despised this effect in AvP.
The cinematic effect becomes very annoying after a while.

Play a few multiplayer matches of AvP and you'll get the jist of it<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Is it that big of a problem if you're already dead?

Thaldarin

<!--quoteo(post=1851942:date=Jun 12 2011, 01:56 AM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Jun 12 2011, 01:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1851942"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is it that big of a problem if you're already dead?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yes. It is.

Harimau

Fair enough.

A simple fade-out effect will do then. Or you could do the Valve thing and swing the camera over to the location of your assailant, or the COD thing and show death-cam.

BarerRudeROC

<!--quoteo(post=1851958:date=Jun 12 2011, 03:54 AM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Jun 12 2011, 03:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1851958"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Fair enough.

A simple fade-out effect will do then. Or you could do the Valve thing and swing the camera over to the location of your assailant, or the COD thing and show death-cam.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I think it's perfect as it is.
Having killcams isn't everyone's cup of tea, and NS2 should maintain it's counter-strike style of death.
Not to mention older players would despise the feature (I think we all remember what happened when CS:S got achievements and killcams).

We shouldn't fix that which isn't broken if you ask me.

SgtHydra

With the Marines you should really get the feeling that someone died and someone new is taking his place (rather than you being immortal or something), while aliens should have a body-upload feel to it.

Harimau

<!--quoteo(post=1852067:date=Jun 12 2011, 07:30 PM:name=BarerRudeROC)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarerRudeROC @ Jun 12 2011, 07:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852067"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We shouldn't fix that which isn't broken if you ask me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The problem with that statement is that the OP and others believe that it is broken, so you're arrogantly denying their opinions.

IronHorse

<!--quoteo(post=1852256:date=Jun 12 2011, 07:52 PM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Jun 12 2011, 07:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852256"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The problem with that statement is that the OP and others believe that it is broken, so you're arrogantly denying their opinions.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

wow harimau, hypocritical much? you just commited the same offense by ignoring his opinion whilst throwing in a personal attack to boot.
maybe relax a little, huh guy?
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zex

I'm like 99.99999999999% sure the current lack of effect is placeholder because the game is in Beta, I mean have some faith in UW, they wouldn't ship a game without any kind of FPS death effect.

Shilorius

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and yeah.. falling to the ground, head hitting hard maybe bounce a litle, fade to black, noises get muffled.... darkness... bright blue light in a distance, comes closer. BÄM ! respawn at IP ! or for aliens... slowly black getting brighter, brown town.. slowly vision gets clear, in egg. hatch. :3<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


This!
This would be pretty awesome!
And it would prevent flying around in spectator mode and spying out the enemy team.

But as zex said:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->(...) the current lack of effect is placeholder because the game is in Beta, I mean have some faith in UW, they wouldn't ship a game without any kind of FPS death effect.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

zex

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->he shot me OH WTF WHERE DO THESE LEGS COME FROM ??<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I knew there was something that was bothering me about the 3rd person death and this is exactly it

Harimau

<!--quoteo(post=1852269:date=Jun 13 2011, 01:46 PM:name=ironhorse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ironhorse @ Jun 13 2011, 01:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1852269"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->wow harimau, hypocritical much? you just commited the same offense by ignoring his opinion whilst throwing in a personal attack to boot.
maybe relax a little, huh guy?
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Not at all. I was simply observing that such a statement is arrogant and biased. It's not a personal attack in any sense. If anyone chooses to take offense (like you did), well, that's not my problem. Sorry, I guess?
Neither did I ignore his opinion. I only criticised the fact that his statement disregarded others' opinions. Perhaps it was an exaggeration.
He said that, we shouldn't fix what isn't broken; but there're problems with that:
- Others believe it is broken.
- If it isn't broken, then we wouldn't be "fixing" it. No, we'd be "improving" it.
His argument seems to stem from complacency rather than the fear that improving it would actually 'break' something. And how would it? It's purely aesthetic and occurs after you die.