"Shift" an unfortunate name

RainseekerRainseeker Join Date: 2008-01-29 Member: 63530Members
Perhaps the naming of the alien structure "Shift" should be rethought. It'll be hard to say "Shift" as a noun in a match without some juvenile giggling and/or offended gasps. Any other ideas, guys?
«1

Comments

  • FehaFeha Join Date: 2006-11-16 Member: 58633Members
    Dont get it, why would people giggle when you say shift? Its like saying ppl would giggle when you say control or alt :S
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <img src="http://members.home.nl/m.borgman/ns-forum/smileys/confused.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • RainseekerRainseeker Join Date: 2008-01-29 Member: 63530Members
    edited May 2011
    Player 1: "Can you build a Shift? We need Fades!"

    Player 2: "I'm building shift right now!" (Only maybe he doesn't say "Shift" but removes the "f". You know this is going to happen and it'll be tired really quickly.)
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1844889:date=May 8 2011, 05:00 PM:name=Rainseeker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rainseeker @ May 8 2011, 05:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1844889"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Player 1: "Can you build a Shift? We need Fades!"

    Player 2: "I'm building shift right now!" (Only maybe he doesn't say "Shift" but removes the "f". You know this is going to happen and it'll be tired really quickly.)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    ...

    ...

    ...


    are you twelve?
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1844894:date=May 8 2011, 10:30 PM:name=KuBaN)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KuBaN @ May 8 2011, 10:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1844894"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><img src="http://members.home.nl/m.borgman/ns-forum/smileys/wtf.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />


    are you twelve?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh oh! I've got a smiley for that ^fixed it!
  • RainseekerRainseeker Join Date: 2008-01-29 Member: 63530Members
    I was under the impression I could make suggestions without being insulted.
  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1844889:date=May 8 2011, 02:00 PM:name=Rainseeker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rainseeker @ May 8 2011, 02:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1844889"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Player 1: "Can you build a Shift? We need Fades!"

    Player 2: "I'm building shift right now!" (Only maybe he doesn't say "Shift" but removes the "f". You know this is going to happen and it'll be tired really quickly.)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Same could apply to "Crag" and "Crap".
  • HeymanHeyman Join Date: 2005-03-29 Member: 46895Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1844912:date=May 8 2011, 04:16 PM:name=Rainseeker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rainseeker @ May 8 2011, 04:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1844912"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I was under the impression I could make suggestions without being insulted.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think what they mean to say is that the issue isn't a big deal. Players who might subscribe to the line of thinking you presented probably won't care too much. Contextually, the name of the structure fits well with its function. And honestly? That's all that's required. If you feel that a structure name will break your immersion because of a potentially humorous mispronunciation, then that's fine and dandy.

    But really, most people didn't think of that until you brought it up.
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1844912:date=May 8 2011, 07:16 PM:name=Rainseeker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rainseeker @ May 8 2011, 07:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1844912"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I was under the impression I could make suggestions without being insulted.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I apologize if you were insulted by my curiosity. I am merely trying to understand you.
  • RainseekerRainseeker Join Date: 2008-01-29 Member: 63530Members
    Thanks, Kuban. Besides the juvenile aspect, I personally think it's cumbersome to use, and I don't like it. That's all, I guess.
  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    They are similar sounding but I don't think it's going to be a problem.
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    edited May 2011
    Shift... what. That would never have occurred to me.
  • wulf 21wulf 21 Join Date: 2011-05-03 Member: 96875Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1845225:date=May 10 2011, 03:06 PM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ May 10 2011, 03:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1845225"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Shift... what. That would never have occurred to me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    +1, do classes start giggeling if the physics teacher is telling something about red-shift? Did people find HL Blue-Shift funny? If someone really has the same association like you, let them giggle or gasp, I don't care.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Shotgun was a better candidate I guess, but it has been promoted to shoot shirts instead...
  • RainseekerRainseeker Join Date: 2008-01-29 Member: 63530Members
    Having an adjective in front of "Shift" would be better, to be sure. I don't know, something about it seems not very alien-like.
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    edited May 2011
    Rains justification aside, he still has a point. Giving things proper names derived from their function still seems lazy and uninspired. About as inventive as refrigerator or toaster.

    ...on that note, even Shifter sounds better. At the very least, since the Kharaa presumably do not have written or spoken language (at least one that'd translate), the assumption is that these are names given by humans. Under that logic, I can see it getting the name <b>Shifter</b>, much in the same consequential way they came to be called Kharaa in the first place. Even that seems like a step up from Shift.
  • RainseekerRainseeker Join Date: 2008-01-29 Member: 63530Members
    Agreed. Shifter would be far better. Thanks for seeing my point, poorly elequated as it was.
  • SewlekSewlek The programmer previously known as Schimmel Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16247Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Developer
    'we need more ######'
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Let's name them after their looks, once those are released, like the Crag was, and sorta the Whip.
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    edited May 2011
    Have we seen what the Shift looks like yet? Maybe it does look like a shift:
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_(clothing)" target="_blank"><img src="http://sc4.stylefeeder.net/thumb/q5/yr/q5yrhrch/q5yrhrch-200.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    edited May 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1845696:date=May 12 2011, 10:19 AM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Align @ May 12 2011, 10:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1845696"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Let's name them after their looks, once those are released, like the Crag was, and sorta the Whip.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--quoteo(post=1845712:date=May 12 2011, 11:13 AM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ May 12 2011, 11:13 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1845712"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Have we seen what the Shift looks like yet? Maybe it does look like a shift:
    <a href="http://sc4.stylefeeder.net/thumb/q5/yr/q5yrhrch/q5yrhrch-200.jpg" target="_blank"><silly image of an unrelated Shift></a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    From the Wiki: <img src="http://unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki/images/e/ee/Shift_sketch.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
  • RainseekerRainseeker Join Date: 2008-01-29 Member: 63530Members
    It looks kind of like a turnip or radish with carrots growing out of the sides and a hat.

    ...what would we call THAT?
  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1846176:date=May 14 2011, 01:34 AM:name=Rainseeker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rainseeker @ May 14 2011, 01:34 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1846176"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It looks kind of like a turnip or radish with carrots growing out of the sides and a hat.

    ...what would we call THAT?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Turarrohat.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    Phonetically it's harder to say Crap from Crag, where as it's phonetically much easier to make a Freudian slip on Shift/Sh-.. mainly because you're removing a phoneme not replacing one.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I'd suggest Shroom from that picture but I can't help but feel there'd be a lot of hurrdurring about drugs.
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    edited May 2011
    Let them hurr, and let them durr, and quit penalizing the rest of the mature/intellectual world just because some people don't ever grow up.
  • lunsluns Join Date: 2010-12-05 Member: 75502Members
    this reminds me good old saying back in ns1. "Go fade yourself"
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1845585:date=May 11 2011, 10:20 PM:name=KuBaN)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KuBaN @ May 11 2011, 10:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1845585"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Rains justification aside, he still has a point. Giving things proper names derived from their function still seems lazy and uninspired. About as inventive as refrigerator or toaster.

    ...on that note, even Shifter sounds better. At the very least, since the Kharaa presumably do not have written or spoken language (at least one that'd translate), the assumption is that these are names given by humans. Under that logic, I can see it getting the name <b>Shifter</b>, much in the same consequential way they came to be called Kharaa in the first place. Even that seems like a step up from Shift.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think the idea behind the naming conventions is that they don't sound alien. They sound like nicknames that the TSA Marines have given after fighting them for some time; short names that succinctly describe their appearance or function.
  • RainseekerRainseeker Join Date: 2008-01-29 Member: 63530Members
    So I guess my suggestion to name it "Lucy" is out.
Sign In or Register to comment.