Who wins
That_Annoying_Kid
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<div class="IPBDescription">Enterprise 1701-D Vs. Imperial Class star destroyer</div>So me and my flatmate were watching some TNG and we started postulating about who would be victorious in a battle. I only thought it fitting to have you folks weight in on the matter.
Also doing a preliminary google it appears fanboys have already beat this horse to death, but nuts to them.
for the sake of argument lets assume it's the NCC 1701-D with Picard, and an imperial class (not Victory, or super star destroyer ala Executor) with random commander
Shamelessly stolen from wikipedia:
would the 6 tie squadrons (works out to be 72) make a difference?
Star destroyers of Imperial class are length 1,600 metres (0.99 mi) Width 1,015 metres (0.631 mi)
and the Enterprise is Length 642.5 Meters Width 467.0 Meters Height 137.5 Meters
My argument was ion cannons on the star destroyer
but proton torpedoes are nothing nice
ENGAGE!
Also doing a preliminary google it appears fanboys have already beat this horse to death, but nuts to them.
for the sake of argument lets assume it's the NCC 1701-D with Picard, and an imperial class (not Victory, or super star destroyer ala Executor) with random commander
Shamelessly stolen from wikipedia:
would the 6 tie squadrons (works out to be 72) make a difference?
Star destroyers of Imperial class are length 1,600 metres (0.99 mi) Width 1,015 metres (0.631 mi)
and the Enterprise is Length 642.5 Meters Width 467.0 Meters Height 137.5 Meters
My argument was ion cannons on the star destroyer
but proton torpedoes are nothing nice
ENGAGE!
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Also tycho doesn't know.
The Empire is bad.
Ergo!
The Enterprise wins.
QED.
My troll sensor is tingling <img src="http://members.home.nl/m.borgman/ns-forum/smileys/shifty.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Yeah well... I blame the constant usage on these here forums, yeah that's right!
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Suddenly: Yuuzhan Vong / Species 8472 hybrids.
The Empire is bad.
Ergo!
The Enterprise wins.
QED.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Winner. Unless it's a cliff hanger where the enterprise is destroyed and they then go back in time to win in the next episode.
- assessing the situation
- talking some more
- evaluating the suggestions made
- analyzing the effect they might have on power consumption or shields
- randomly speaking to other senior officers, to make even more suggestions
- casually making some remark about the enemy ship being inferior
- whining their shields are being damaged
- whining their hull is being damaged
- whining their fragile backup systems suck (it's a wonder these ships don't explode randomly)
- asking why this is happening and if something could be done to stop the damage done to the ship
- and then maybe, just maybe giving the order to fire something in the general direction of the enemy
- previous step is only used as a last resort after multiple failed attempts of hailing the enemy vessel...
Luck is usually on their pyjama wearing side though...
No, they don't. Romulans are rarely overtly aggressive. They usually try to manipulate their enemies into making the first move.
--Scythe--
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grrr
Basically the nerd camp that Stickman and I fall into (aka Star Wars nerds) say that a Star Destroyer took out an asteroid with one shot in The Empire Strikes Back, whereas phasers in some episode of Star Trek took a while to drill through an asteroid, so the weapons in Star Wars are super powerful compared to those in Star Trek. AKA, Star Destroyer wins. Align is right about the good guys winning, though. Unless this is a scene where we need to show how evil the Empire is, it'll be Starfleet on top.
but I was like meh cause that is taking it a step to far, I would rather just back and forth debate.
Thanks for the response Tychoo <3
what about photon torpedos?
What about TRANSPHASIC TORPEDOS OLOLOL
okay voyager nerd shutting up
oh well, here goes...next week's topic is Batman vs Ghandi, right?
Enterprise has one phasor and some torpedoes, compared with dozens of batteries (and fighter complements) on any star destroyer
I'd venture to say that the star destroyer would be more powerful in a straight-up brawl, but the Enterprise would certainly be much, much faster at running away (and it can still fight while at warp speed, if the star destroyer does its calculations and tries to follow, at a measly warp 1)
Carrier Battle Cruisers have been proven to be far superior!
Basically the nerd camp that Stickman and I fall into (aka Star Wars nerds) say that a Star Destroyer took out an asteroid with one shot in The Empire Strikes Back, whereas phasers in some episode of Star Trek took a while to drill through an asteroid, so the weapons in Star Wars are super powerful compared to those in Star Trek. AKA, Star Destroyer wins. Align is right about the good guys winning, though. Unless this is a scene where we need to show how evil the Empire is, it'll be Starfleet on top.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Starfleet will invent some new hi-tech armour that evolves, or possibly even some sort of new deflector dish that reflects the power back at the attacker!
Also, lolf is on the same page, he wins.
Suspend disbelief if you are going to participate in this thread, thanks
you sour squirt er
I was just pointing out the inanity of culling "data" which is why I reject his particular brand of comparison
honestly though the ties put it over the top when you think about it
unless it's quick phaser blasts to knock each one out of they sky... they don't have shields
I will say though that any enterprise beyond D would probably have zero problem with any type of star destroyer
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Very well.
HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER!!
Enter stage left, center, AND right (because the stage is too small), here comes... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexx#The_Lexx" target="_blank">The Lexx.</a> Sporting the firepower of a Deathstar in a nimble, penis-shaped, almost pint-sized package (merely the size of Manhattan! Perfect for your front yard!), The Lexx is the ultimate weapon and can destroy any spaceship that either Star Wars or Star Trek can throw at it with little effort, although prolonged lack of planetary destruction will be met with sulky petulance.
Fight's over boys. You can go home now.
When was the last time you saw a ship-to-ship phaser miss?
(cue millions of examples)
Would they need to separate the saucer section?
HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER!!
Enter stage left, center, AND right (because the stage is too small), here comes... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexx#The_Lexx" target="_blank">The Lexx.</a> Sporting the firepower of a Deathstar in a nimble, penis-shaped, almost pint-sized package (merely the size of Manhattan! Perfect for your front yard!), The Lexx is the ultimate weapon and can destroy any spaceship that either Star Wars or Star Trek can throw at it with little effort, although prolonged lack of planetary destruction will be met with sulky petulance.
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Lexx can only fire forwards, and even then there's a lengthy warm up time. That's why he msotly destroys only planets, i.e., things that aren't going to jump out of the way during the 10 minute warm up.
The Enterprise would just stay behind his eyes and shoot him, and Lexx would be all "I am being attacked" and Stanley would be all "Omg I don't want to die please Xev let's do sexual things for once before we all die!" and then Kai would come up with a plan that involves throwing him into space so he can grapple onto the enterprise and fight his way through the crew single handedly or some such crap.
Lexx loses in this matchup.