MAC/Drifter Pathing

KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
edited March 2011 in Ideas and Suggestions
Currently, in Tram, a Drifters can go from Alien Start, walk to the Elevator Tech point and build a Hive via the vents, and is never on contested territory long enough to be stopped. The ability of MACs and Drifters to use vents seems a bit problematic (colloquially, OP) in this regard.

Perhaps AI/Comm controlled entities should be barred from using vents. Or, if this is too restrictive, prevent any commander-directed move order from utilizing vent paths, only permit them to enter vents if escorted-by/following a player-controlled unit.

Another alternative is to limit movement for each builder unit when they travel outside of their respective territories (power grid, infestation). For example, Drifters can only Fly on Infestation, and must otherwise crawl at a decreased speed, while MACs would lose their ability to hover and be forced to roll around in unpowered areas.

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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Are those really the biggest problems with Drifter/MAC pathing? The issues imo are:
    1. Drifters/MACs going above the map because you accidentally right-clicked on invisible geometry
    2. Drifters/MACs taking zig-zag or indirect routes when a straight line path would be the optimal
    3. Drifters/MACs passing through walls/general no-clipping through map geometry

    In effect, Drifters/MACs take excessively long zig-zag routes when a straight line route would be best and straight line routes (through walls) when zig-zag routes would be the most logical.
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    I like that Drifters/MACs use vents, makes the vents more useful.
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1838633:date=Mar 24 2011, 10:00 AM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Mar 24 2011, 10:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838633"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I like that Drifters/MACs use vents, makes the vents more useful.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah but it also makes player/comm cooperation less necessary, which I figured was a more core aspect of the game than dancing in vents.

    @Scardy: 1 and 3 are due to the technical implementation/bugs, not necessary design principle. I would argue the same with 2. I prefer to leave bug reporting to GetSatisfaction, so that the I&S forum can be more of an I&S forum.
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    I suppose you're right.
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