Natural Selection 2 Lan-Party

XuXuXuXu Join Date: 2011-01-01 Member: 76096Members, Reinforced - Silver Posts: 35
Hello everyone! May you can help me!

Me and my mates will hosting a nice little LAN-party in February with approx. 40 - 50 people.

So my question is, it is possible to play NS2 in offline-mode and is there a opportunity to just use one Steam-Account with the NS2-Key (share it just for the lan, no internet)

Wish to promote the game a bit and it will be fun to see the response from my mates! :)


GREETZ


XuXu
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  • AngeluszAngelusz Harmonic entropist Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18072Members, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester Posts: 2,601 mod
    As much as I'd love to be able to type a long-winded guide on how to achieve this, I'm afraid that on all accounts you'll have to suffice with the following answer:

    Nope.
  • derWalterderWalter Join Date: 2008-10-29 Member: 65323Members Posts: 634 Fully active user
    no lan mode no crack either - maybe there will be a spawn edition like in sc1?

    :P
  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members Posts: 815 Fully active user
    has anyone tried to run via a vpn on a dedicated server but then again, unless you have your own vpn within your network it would be the same as running a internet game. I'm sure it can be done easily if you experiment a bit.
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer Posts: 2,557 mod
    Ns2 in a lan should work. Worst case you have to manualy join the server trough the console (because in the server browser you will see the internet IP, so you will take the detour over the internet). Other than that i don't see any particular problem
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  • XuXuXuXu Join Date: 2011-01-01 Member: 76096Members, Reinforced - Silver Posts: 35
    tried it in following case:


    cut off internet-connection, Steam in offline mode. Able to start the game but cannot create a Listen-Server (error message: authentication failed)

    tried it with a dedicated server start (without inet) --> it runs but I cannot connect to it --> (authentication failed)


    so far I didn't get it but is there a config for setting lan on true or something similar? Cannot be, the game really requires internet ???


    Greetz


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  • AngeluszAngelusz Harmonic entropist Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18072Members, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester Posts: 2,601 mod
    In your last post you adressed exactly what everyone's missing; the authentication server.

    Sure, saying it's "easy to do if you try hard enough" is easy to say, but it doesn't change any facts.

    Unless UWE chooses to add some code to allow for this (or, better would be if I missed something), I'm afraid you can't do this right now.
  • AgathoSAreSAgathoSAreS CH Join Date: 2018-12-05 Member: 245172Members Posts: 1 Fully active user
    Well, same problem.
    Followed the development process, bought the game shortly after release.
    And while one can say I had my fair share out of the game, and rightfully so, the day came
    when only one server had people on it, and i couldn't join because it was rookies only.

    Next day the same, and the day after.
    So the game was dead to me, i was only able to join empty servers. Nobody else came.

    I would love to replay it on a Lan next week at the office, but Steam DRM prevents this, and while the dev-blog states otherwise, last week i checked and there's normaly only 1 or two server up with people playing, and i think nobody wants to spend 100 bucks per 10 keys on a basically dead game, for a 2h session at the office.

    Such missed opportunities to promote the game, may also factor in this state. Idk.
    That you get redirected to subnautica- (which i loved btw, excellent job on that) forums for ns2 forum login says it all, no? ;)

    And ofc it has been pirated years ago, and even in 2011 it was available for offline Lans (working confirmed), but you never know what you get when downloading illegal provided software.

    I don't think Unknown Worlds would have suffered providing keys to one or two of this lan requests, when not making it public.
    But that the promotion aspect would have overweight the "But then they all want it!", factor.
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,593 Advanced user
    edited December 2018
    There's a couple cracked NS2 versions on TPB but they will be several years out of date. If I were lucky enough to have a group big enough to do a NS2 LAN party I'd fork out the money to buy keys for everyone and set up a quasi-LAN. Sure the dedicated server would be connected to the internet but oh well.

    It's $25 for a 4-pack, so $5 a person at $50 if you have 8 players. It'll be $70 for 10 players.

    If you are allergic to spending money then you could always play the original NS or other fun LAN games, such as Tremulous, Tribes, The Specialists, Urban Terror, Quake 3 Arena, or even WolfET.
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
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  • NintendowsNintendows Join Date: 2016-11-07 Member: 223716Members, Squad Five Blue Posts: 351 Advanced user
    Just do family sharing lol
  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,690 Advanced user
    edited December 2018
    Nintendows wrote: »
    Just do family sharing lol

    You can't run the same game at the same time if only one person owns the game.

    Also, I don't know what time you were playing when you saw only 1 or 2 servers, but there are usually a minimum of 3 full servers even at the slowest of times such as late at night with as many as 13 full servers during peak times.
    Post edited by Nordic on
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
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  • skav2skav2 Join Date: 2007-05-28 Member: 61037Members, Reinforced - Gold Posts: 181 Advanced user
    Check your filters on the server browser if you are only seeing 2 servers.
  • GhoulofGSG9GhoulofGSG9 Join Date: 2013-03-31 Member: 184566Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Supporter, Pistachionauts Posts: 2,819 admin
    Well, same problem.
    Followed the development process, bought the game shortly after release.
    And while one can say I had my fair share out of the game, and rightfully so, the day came
    when only one server had people on it, and i couldn't join because it was rookies only.

    Next day the same, and the day after.
    So the game was dead to me, i was only able to join empty servers. Nobody else came.

    I would love to replay it on a Lan next week at the office, but Steam DRM prevents this, and while the dev-blog states otherwise, last week i checked and there's normaly only 1 or two server up with people playing, and i think nobody wants to spend 100 bucks per 10 keys on a basically dead game, for a 2h session at the office.

    Such missed opportunities to promote the game, may also factor in this state. Idk.
    That you get redirected to subnautica- (which i loved btw, excellent job on that) forums for ns2 forum login says it all, no? ;)

    And ofc it has been pirated years ago, and even in 2011 it was available for offline Lans (working confirmed), but you never know what you get when downloading illegal provided software.

    I don't think Unknown Worlds would have suffered providing keys to one or two of this lan requests, when not making it public.
    But that the promotion aspect would have overweight the "But then they all want it!", factor.

    Hi,

    it's not well known but ns2 has a lan mode. Just start up the dedicated server with the -hidden start parameter. The dedicated server binary is part of your ns2 installation and can be found in the x64 folder or otherwise just download the dedicated server package (4940). More details about the dedicated server can be found at the wiki.

    For the clients make sure steam is set to the offline mode and connect to the server via the connect console command if it doesn't show in the server browser (steamwork's lan broadcasting is a little funky and doesn't always work).

    I have played the game this way multiple times with various people at smaller and larger LAN parties.

    Additionally even during the lowest player count peaks times there are more than 2 servers populated (you can verify this yourself via e.g., https://ns2servers.pw/)
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  • NintendowsNintendows Join Date: 2016-11-07 Member: 223716Members, Squad Five Blue Posts: 351 Advanced user
    Nordic wrote: »
    Nintendows wrote: »
    Just do family sharing lol

    You can't run the same game at the same time if only one person owns the game.

    Also, I don't know what time you were playing when you saw only 1 or 2 servers, but there are usually a minimum of 3 full servers even at the slowest of times such as late at night with as many as 13 full servers during peak times.

    Maybe it's a bug with steam, but if one person who is running the game goes in offline mode, the other people can boot up the game just fine. I used to do it all the time at lan parties.
  • GhoulofGSG9GhoulofGSG9 Join Date: 2013-03-31 Member: 184566Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Supporter, Pistachionauts Posts: 2,819 admin
    edited December 2018
    Nintendows wrote: »
    Nordic wrote: »
    Nintendows wrote: »
    Just do family sharing lol

    You can't run the same game at the same time if only one person owns the game.

    Also, I don't know what time you were playing when you saw only 1 or 2 servers, but there are usually a minimum of 3 full servers even at the slowest of times such as late at night with as many as 13 full servers during peak times.

    Maybe it's a bug with steam, but if one person who is running the game goes in offline mode, the other people can boot up the game just fine. I used to do it all the time at lan parties.

    That's not a bug but a feature :P However clients running steam in the offline mode will fail the server's steam auth check unless it runs in the lan/hidden mode.
    Developer, Modder and Server Admin of Survival of the Fattest - Ingame Nick: Ghoul
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