Eject Commander Vote Bug

ViPr

if you vote out a crap commander and then another commander takes over and he's crap too so you vote him out, then the game will tell you that you already voted. errr i don't think so!

just now we had this crap commander that wouldn't drop us any health packs and we were waiting for ages and our resources were like 2500 ( that's coz i was commander and i stepped out for a moment and he hopped in btw) and he refused to give us health packs. in the end we decided we'd have to eject him by destroying the command centre and then having someone else hop into the backup command centre quickly. i'm sure there are some **obscenity** marines now that had no clue what the hell was going on that are gonna come on here and complain that they saw all these marine jerks destroying their own command centre with heavy machine guns and that we should all be banned.

i remember a team killer got on our team and started killing us and destroying our buildings so we killed him and camped at the infantry spawn to kill him everytime he spawned. anyway some **obscenity** marine walks in right at the moment i'm executing the team killer and he insults me and tells me to stop **obscenity** team killing and he kills me.

anyway i'd just like to say this so i'm not the one that gets banned.

EDIT- anyway, i should be fair, when we had 2500 resources when i was commander it could have had something to do with the teams being 11 to 7 in our favour. heheheh. hey i can't help it if i'm such a damn good commander that everyone desperately wants to be on my team heheheheh. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

Acrobad

Yeah it gets annoying seeing as how sometimes people dont vote together... And sometimes I dont even know they voted because i turned cl_autohelp off... meaning I will never be able to tell when a vote started

And many times there are more than just one senseless commander....

I hope this can be fixed. I know this will not be easy to fix seeing as how it could be easily exploited by lamers.... sigh.

ViPr

OH MY GOD SUCH STUPID **obscenity** IDIOT COMMANDERS THERE ARE ! !! ! !! !

we took one hive and were doing really well but then the idiot commander put only 2 turrets in the hive and i told him put more. then a node near our base lost the turret factory and about 6 turrets in it went down. I told him to put another turret factory. i yelled into voice com continuously for about 20 minutes for him to put another turret factory and he didn't. in the end it got cleared out and we lost basically. he didn't **obscenity** listen to me the idiot and i couldn't vote him out because i already voted out some other idiot and this damn bug says i can't vote more than once!

Mobay

Well Easy There..... NS is still new to manny people... and the Amount of people playing is growing every day.... and U can't just expect that people will get used to the game just like that..

Why the newbies go commander is because the commander feature in Ns is what lure them to play NS... get it... i hope so <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

anyway join a clan or play on a passworded server with no newbies... its not hard to find... U just have to get in to the communit i guezz

WaffleSpoon

Just because <b>you</b> think you are one "leet" badass commander and player, doesnt give you the right to critizise other players. I know of commanders having somewhat strange plans that includes (this is the bst way I've found to command) NOT give out HAs and HMGs and tell your marines that they must secure that hive, the ones that does will get tasty treats and the rest wont be getting anything but welders and health.

Now, the majority of players I've played with (including myself as a lone repair and build grunt) likes this idea, as it lets them have a mission and a reason for completing it. The thing I've found out about some marines is that they are so focused on the fact that HA and HMG makes everything good, and if they dont get it, they start screaming and spamming voicecomms and with team_say making it impossible to hear any other requests.

But TKs and Llamas, yes that I can understand, they are many. But as long as you dont do what they do, you are a good player, it is when you take their methods, and want to put them through the same thing that you become one of them.

It is like killing somebody just because they killed somebody else, there is nothing that justyfies you doing the same thing..and should you do that, you are not better in any way.

Back on topic: I think it is fine as it is. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

ViPr

ok what the hell do you suggest we do when we are marines and an alien switches to the our team and keeps killing us and destroying our buildings deliberately?

kanseri

yep, it sucks :/

Twex

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i suggest playing on a v1.02+ server in casual mode

maniac_cop

i usually dont even notice there's an eject commander vote until its failed <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

OPIE

Agreed, there are still many new people playing this game......I myself am only 4 days old to the game, but I play CS alot so field work wasent hard to catch on.....I am a decent shot now and can take out alot of enemy buildings with the proper equipment. My first day playing I jumped into the commander station and was confused completely. Yes if your new the commander is a hard position but I can also see someones point about health packs and factories because its not hard to look in the menu for the building/ammo/health ect... that your troops want and place them. Yeah you will be a little slow at it but its still not hard to click point and click again to place a building. The computer and hints alone that pop up are enough to get you started. The computer tells you to press jump key to go to the alert. So finding places shouldent be hard. Alerts also count for troops calling for ammo over the menu talk nto voice comm or typing. I find it annoying when troops are just yelling for ammo and I can not find them cause they dont know where they are lol. I have gotten pretty good at the commander and have led 5 teams to victory when teams were even.

I was lucky my first day as well I had a nice commander who explained to me how to build things and everything else needed in the field....think his name was Avon...or something like that. Anyways Thanks Avon for the help.

Ahnteis

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Actually, sometimes you're saving your entire team from being TKed. Just make sure you understand what is going on before you mete out justice.

Aaron

Many times I go humbly without armor and weapons (if they are dropped near me I ignore them) just because I would rather go without and have somebody else take it, than to have to listen to some jerk whine over and over on voice comm that he wants armor and weapons. Sucks for well behaved players like me. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Zero0016

Hey how did you kill the guy that was team killing?
Were you just on a freindly fire server?

Commander is an easy position, but it just takes practice <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

ViPr

yeah i was on a friendly fire server. i prefer friendly fire to be on in all games i play otherwise i feel it's like cheating.

ianski

i've been playing on casual servers, it seems the marines can still kill the buildings with the LMG. We had someone join our team and kill the commander chair, then quit the server. We proceeded to destroy what defenses we had (inc inf portals) and then rushed the hive. It wasn't a teamkill server cos we couldn't hardm team mates. We also couldn't knife our buildings, only pistol/lmg.
Anything we can do about this?? Commchair killers are peeeeeing me off

ekent

Gah, I wouldn't be so quick to vote out a commander just because he wasn't dropping ammo and health. What if he was off securing the rest of the map? Were you in a group with the rest of your team? Or were you off with just one other guy and not listening to what your commander wanted you to do? If you're not getting ammo and health, fall back to an established base first, load up on ammo, use the menu and if that's not working ask with voice comm or text with your current location. Then immediately afterwards tell him to give you a waypoint to the current hotspot. If that hasn't worked then you may have a grievance, but I <i>still</i> wouldn't kick a commander out unless he wasn't securing vital areas or something important like that.

I wish marines would understand that unless you're decked out with armor and a hmg or gl or shotgun you are <i>inexpensive</i> and an <i>acceptable casualty</i> so would you get your butt in gear and build me the turret factory please. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

ViPr

i had heavy armor and heavy machine gun and welder and was standing in the main base. i used the menu like 50 times in a row and was yelling into my voice com and i could hear others using their menu to ask for med-packs also. i did this for several minutes and we had a couple of thousand resources.

the aliens were typing to us to hurry up and kill them because we were taking too long. i'm assuming it was because so many of us were just falling back to base waiting for health before we risked going out. i did see alot of marines in our base.

it is so friggin annoying how many times i have gone without assistance for so many minutes. sometimes i ask for someone to weld me. i end up trying to get all in peoples face when they are welding buildings and i yell into my voice com and they still don't realize and they have the damn welder in their hands and are looking at me and then they just walk off. retards! or i ask someone to weld me and they have no welder so i pass them mine and then they walk off with it without welding me. i yell and yell and they don't listen.

Eidolan

About how people should be nice to "new" com's because the game is new well guess what thats BS! My frist day playing i commanded 4 marines vs 11 bugs after the 1st com **obscenity** everything up and guess what? WE STILL WON! So being new has crap to do with how good of a player you are. If you read the book that comes with the mod you will know everything you need to know.

Daxx

Then perhaps if you didn't scream at people, and ask them nicely, they might help you...

WaffleSpoon

I totally agree, I've just walked out on people yelling to me. Say two guys with same equippment and need for welding stands before me, one saying "hey, could u weld me? no armour" and the other one is "weld me, weld me..CMON! why u taking so long, FFS weld me, need it.. N00B weld me, cmoooon".

u guess how willing I am to help him?

Plus, when u lost that health, were u following the commanders orders and went with the entire marine team to build thing sup and patroling your friends while they built -or- were u just going on a rambo tour with your fine weapon and trying to take that hive out yourself, plaguing the commander with "res free, near hive FFS, give me health, ammo, ready for orders, help me damit" ?

I mean, TEAMWORK, not u work, they follow u...