Will the performance of the Alpha be increased?

kflow47kflow47 Join Date: 2008-10-09 Member: 65154Members
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As the title says I would like to know if performance has increased from Engine Test to alpha, I mean the Engine Test is unplayable for me!
Here is my windows performanceindex maybe u could tell me, if i am able to play(it's german but i think you can guess wat is wat)
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    I hope so, I can play it well but the erratic FPS is very noticeable.
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  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    They have not been updating the Engine Test for quite some time, so I find it highly likely that it's been optimized and will run much smoother on more computers.

    Not saying we can all get 60fps, but it should be much less rough.
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  • PapayasPapayas Join Date: 2010-07-01 Member: 72219Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779227:date=Jul 15 2010, 07:08 PM:name=spellman23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spellman23 @ Jul 15 2010, 07:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779227"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They have not been updating the Engine Test for quite some time, so I find it highly likely that it's been optimized and will run much smoother on more computers.

    Not saying we can all get 60fps, but it should be much less rough.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah, no doubt about that.
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  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I think people should realize its very, very <b>possible</b> that the game may not even run at all.

    Its the first release of an <b>alpha</b> build ... It will get better with time, but it will take time.

    You should expect all sorts of things to go wrong, especially with the first build. Not being able to jump, guns that wont fire, messed up hitboxes, loud/annoying sounds, frequent crashes ... about the worst things game wise you can imagine.

    Then you can be pleasantly surprised when you're not one of those people that will have issues. Because there will be.

    And they will be in the forums.
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  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1779294:date=Jul 15 2010, 05:35 PM:name=Silver_Fox)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Silver_Fox @ Jul 15 2010, 05:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779294"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think people should realize its very, very <b>possible</b> that the game may not even run at all.

    Its the first release of an <b>alpha</b> build ... It will get better with time, but it will take time.

    You should expect all sorts of things to go wrong, especially with the first build. Not being able to jump, guns that wont fire, messed up hitboxes, loud/annoying sounds, frequent crashes ... about the worst things game wise you can imagine.

    Then you can be pleasantly surprised when you're not one of those people that will have issues. Because there will be.

    And they will be in the forums.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes. Hark all ye fools. Remember these times, for they will be the fondest of your NS2 memories.
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  • FreddehFreddeh Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18520Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1779308:date=Jul 15 2010, 03:17 PM:name=Rob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rob @ Jul 15 2010, 03:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779308"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes. Hark all ye fools. Remember these times, for they will be the fondest of your NS2 memories.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Quoted for emphasis.
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  • EyelessEyeless Join Date: 2010-02-01 Member: 70391Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779294:date=Jul 15 2010, 01:35 PM:name=Silver_Fox)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Silver_Fox @ Jul 15 2010, 01:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779294"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think people should realize its very, very <b>possible</b> that the game may not even run at all.

    Its the first release of an <b>alpha</b> build ... It will get better with time, but it will take time.

    You should expect all sorts of things to go wrong, especially with the first build. Not being able to jump, guns that wont fire, messed up hitboxes, loud/annoying sounds, frequent crashes ... about the worst things game wise you can imagine.

    Then you can be pleasantly surprised when you're not one of those people that will have issues. Because there will be.

    And they will be in the forums.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    duh..................he just asked if it would run a little better then the engine test.
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  • HashashinHashashin Join Date: 2010-04-15 Member: 71416Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779294:date=Jul 15 2010, 10:35 PM:name=Silver_Fox)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Silver_Fox @ Jul 15 2010, 10:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779294"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think people should realize its very, very <b>possible</b> that the game may not even run at all.

    Its the first release of an <b>alpha</b> build ... It will get better with time, but it will take time.

    You should expect all sorts of things to go wrong, especially with the first build. Not being able to jump, guns that wont fire, messed up hitboxes, loud/annoying sounds, frequent crashes ... <b>about the worst things game wise you can imagine</b>.

    Then you can be pleasantly surprised when you're not one of those people that will have issues. Because there will be.

    And they will be in the forums.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Does this mean... involuntary backdoor jail love???
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  • cmc5788cmc5788 Join Date: 2009-10-06 Member: 68959Members
    I hope that performance will be better. I was under the impression that's what the engine test is for, since they'll actually begin gameplay balancing in alpha. I do anticipate many vendor-specific performance problems will be solved. That remains to be seen, of course.
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  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--quoteo(post=1779339:date=Jul 15 2010, 08:35 PM:name=Hashashin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hashashin @ Jul 15 2010, 08:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779339"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Does this mean... involuntary backdoor jail love???<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Well, I did specify 'game wise'.

    Though ... if those are the types of games you are playing .... I suppose so?

    Don't worry, I wont judge!
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  • HashashinHashashin Join Date: 2010-04-15 Member: 71416Members
    Runs pretty smooth on my corei7, but I get nasty texture flickering and bugged rifle shot repetition on the practice maps.
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  • cmc5788cmc5788 Join Date: 2009-10-06 Member: 68959Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779381:date=Jul 15 2010, 08:48 PM:name=Hashashin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hashashin @ Jul 15 2010, 08:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779381"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Runs pretty smooth on my corei7, but I get nasty texture flickering and bugged rifle shot repetition on the practice maps.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah. I can fix the rifle shot thing with the lua hack people have talked about, but a few of the textures (which I assume are decals) do flicker. Other than that, I get a hiccup when I enter a big room or turn a corner quickly. Settings on high running on a 3-year-old computer that wasn't even top of the line 3 years ago, great performance.

    That's why I assume that any crippling performance problems are probably due more to driver compatibility than actual hardware limitations.
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  • DrownDrown Underwater Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10392Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779381:date=Jul 15 2010, 09:48 PM:name=Hashashin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hashashin @ Jul 15 2010, 09:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779381"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Runs pretty smooth on my corei7, but I get nasty texture flickering and bugged rifle shot repetition on the practice maps.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm on an i7 with no issues at all, runs smooth as silk.
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  • ArrowheadArrowhead Join Date: 2005-03-04 Member: 43198Members
    Well not everyone has upgraded to an i7 just yet, so let's hope they keep us Core 2 peeps in mind. Framrates for me aren't quite as smooth as I would like. Q6600, ATI 5770.
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  • glimmermanglimmerman Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28300Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1779216:date=Jul 16 2010, 02:59 AM:name=kflow47)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kflow47 @ Jul 16 2010, 02:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779216"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As the title says I would like to know if performance has increased from Engine Test to alpha, I mean the Engine Test is unplayable for me!
    Here is my windows performanceindex maybe u could tell me, if i am able to play(it's german but i think you can guess wat is wat)
    <a href="http://picfront.de/d/7ITw" target="_blank"><img src="http://www9.picfront.org/picture/hBINZ6SvY/thb/performanceIndex.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No. It will never be updated ever and will always be this laggy/slow. You should just ask for a refund. They have not been working on the game at all since the engine test and are simply partying in the Bahamas every day.
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  • kflow47kflow47 Join Date: 2008-10-09 Member: 65154Members
    edited July 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1779392:date=Jul 16 2010, 03:55 AM:name=glimmerman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (glimmerman @ Jul 16 2010, 03:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779392"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No. It will never be updated ever and will always be this laggy/slow. You should just ask for a refund. They have not been working on the game at all since the engine test and are simply partying in the Bahamas every day.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I know that they will optimize the performance, but in most cases the developers optimize the performance in the end stage of developement!
    My question is if they fixed it already so STFU ty -.-

    PS: You cant get a refund when ur key is bound with Steam
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  • yourbonesakinyourbonesakin Join Date: 2005-08-06 Member: 57682Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779394:date=Jul 15 2010, 11:02 PM:name=kflow47)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kflow47 @ Jul 15 2010, 11:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779394"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I know that it's an alpha, and I know that performance optimizing happens in most cases in the end stage of development, I just asked myself if they already optimized abit! My question was NOT if they will ever fix it, my question was WHEN they will fix it.
    Stupid ######<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The engine test won't be fixed. It's not the alpha. The engine test is just a one time deal. The alpha will replace it.

    The alpha version of the game is more playable in comparison to the engine test. It will be fixed continually on a large scale once testers get their hands on it. Eventually it'll be fixed enough that we move to beta.
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  • kflow47kflow47 Join Date: 2008-10-09 Member: 65154Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779397:date=Jul 16 2010, 04:17 AM:name=yourbonesakin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yourbonesakin @ Jul 16 2010, 04:17 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779397"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The engine test won't be fixed. It's not the alpha. The engine test is just a one time deal. The alpha will replace it.

    The alpha version of the game is more playable in comparison to the engine test. It will be fixed continually on a large scale once testers get their hands on it. Eventually it'll be fixed enough that we move to beta.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I meant the alpha thanks for your answer =)
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  • yourbonesakinyourbonesakin Join Date: 2005-08-06 Member: 57682Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779400:date=Jul 15 2010, 11:24 PM:name=kflow47)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kflow47 @ Jul 15 2010, 11:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779400"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I meant the alpha thanks for your answer =)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The alpha will most certainly be fixed :D

    It'll just take some time. When we get into beta, most driver/graphics/compatibility issues should be fixed. The alpha will be buggy. That's what testers are for :D
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  • PapayasPapayas Join Date: 2010-07-01 Member: 72219Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779392:date=Jul 16 2010, 02:55 AM:name=glimmerman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (glimmerman @ Jul 16 2010, 02:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779392"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No. It will never be updated ever and will always be this laggy/slow. You should just ask for a refund. They have not been working on the game at all since the engine test and are simply partying in the Bahamas every day.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The have not been working on the game since they released the Engine test?

    Maybe you should look around for a 'NEWS' tab and click on it. Then you will see the work they have done since the Engine was released. If you still think that they haven't been working on the game then I suggest you go away. You are obviously not impressed with this game so (If you bought it) get a refund. If not, shut up.

    Yes? Thanks.
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  • ArrowheadArrowhead Join Date: 2005-03-04 Member: 43198Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779443:date=Jul 16 2010, 02:47 AM:name=Papayas)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Papayas @ Jul 16 2010, 02:47 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779443"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The have not been working on the game since they released the Engine test?

    Maybe you should look around for a 'NEWS' tab and click on it. Then you will see the work they have done since the Engine was released. If you still think that they haven't been working on the game then I suggest you go away. You are obviously not impressed with this game so (If you bought it) get a refund. If not, shut up.

    Yes? Thanks.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hmm, sounds like your sarcasm detector is broken. ;)
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  • yourbonesakinyourbonesakin Join Date: 2005-08-06 Member: 57682Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779445:date=Jul 16 2010, 02:55 AM:name=Arrowhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrowhead @ Jul 16 2010, 02:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779445"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hmm, sounds like your sarcasm detector is broken. ;)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To be fair, Glimmerman was overly mean for an honest question.
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  • carlgmcarlgm Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30907Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1779449:date=Jul 16 2010, 03:18 AM:name=yourbonesakin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yourbonesakin @ Jul 16 2010, 03:18 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779449"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->To be fair, Glimmerman was overly mean for an honest question.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    To be fair, it was obvious sarcasm.
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  • yourbonesakinyourbonesakin Join Date: 2005-08-06 Member: 57682Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779466:date=Jul 16 2010, 04:49 AM:name=carlgm)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (carlgm @ Jul 16 2010, 04:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779466"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->To be fair, it was obvious sarcasm.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It was mean sarcasm, you're right.
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  • HashashinHashashin Join Date: 2010-04-15 Member: 71416Members
    The engine test looks really good and runs really smooth, it's like crysis except it runs well.
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  • FocusedWolfFocusedWolf Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34258Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779505:date=Jul 16 2010, 09:33 AM:name=Hashashin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hashashin @ Jul 16 2010, 09:33 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779505"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The engine test looks really good and runs really smooth, it's like crysis except it runs well.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Seriously did you just say an engine test of NS2 is better then Crysis?

    I think you meant to say that, the <u>engine test</u> is AS DEMANDING as Crysis, and that's about it :P
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  • zimzumzimzum Join Date: 2004-09-02 Member: 31200Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1779466:date=Jul 16 2010, 04:49 AM:name=carlgm)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (carlgm @ Jul 16 2010, 04:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779466"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->To be fair, it was obvious sarcasm.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It seems to be a trend, he/she's missed obvious sarcasm in other threads as well. May not be a native English speaker.
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  • cmc5788cmc5788 Join Date: 2009-10-06 Member: 68959Members
    edited July 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1779512:date=Jul 16 2010, 08:44 AM:name=FocusedWolf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FocusedWolf @ Jul 16 2010, 08:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779512"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Seriously did you just say an engine test of NS2 is better then Crysis?

    I think you meant to say that, the <u>engine test</u> is AS DEMANDING as Crysis, and that's about it :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The engine test is nowhere near as demanding as Crysis, it just has more software-specific glitches than a well-tested engine. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I can run the engine test almost flawlessly on high on a 3-year-old computer that wasn't even top-of-the-line 3 years ago. Try doing that with Crysis on max.

    edit: to be fair, a lot of that probably also has to do with being able to have pretty aggressive occlusion culling for a game based around indoor hallways and corridors. You can avoid a lot of extra rendering without sacrificing any aesthetics.
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  • goblingoblin Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31412Members
    <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds/topics/does_ns2_support_multi_core_cpus_yet" target="_blank">http://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds/t...i_core_cpus_yet</a>
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  • PapayasPapayas Join Date: 2010-07-01 Member: 72219Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779445:date=Jul 16 2010, 06:55 AM:name=Arrowhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrowhead @ Jul 16 2010, 06:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779445"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hmm, sounds like your sarcasm detector is broken. ;)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It wasn't working XD

    I needed to put in new batteries ^-^
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