Windows (as in the openings found on walls)

Pstrangler

As the engine (and mapping tools) work now, no glass material seems to be available.

The way of creating a window seems to consist in creating a hole in the geometry so players can see the skymap/outside geography through the said window.

It might create a problem though with jet packers, lerks, fades and skulks that can all find their way to higher or otherwise unreachable areas.

Is there a transparent blocking volume that I can set? A bit like the CLIP texture in hammer if I remember well.

slayer20

As of right now, no there isn't.

You shouldn't have to worry though. I'm sure we'll get something like glass or clip brushes to stop players from going to unwanted areas.

BreadMan

As a matter of fact that functionality was just added and should be in the next patch. It is really easy to use. And yes, we will have glass at some point.

Feha

Isnt it just to make a pdf with nothing in it and use it? Basicly a face that is no-drawn.

Pipi

Best would be to have materials using bump and specular maps without any diffuse map. I tried and doesn't work.

SgtBarlow

nono, Just save out a 128x128 black canvas, then save out a pure white opacity map. Hey presto an invisible wall.
I dont think anything that is a mesh/grill/grid can be shot through at the moment....

Thaldarin

Translucent textures can't be shot through in the current state of our tools.

Meshes with gaps, ie wireframe/railings, I believe can be shot through.

GISP

Invisible walls are not a play thing... Nothing worse then seing someone behind one, and be unable to ###### at em...

Feha

And how often do someone get outside the enclosed map? Myself I hate invisible walls, alot, but if its used as a window to let ppl look out the spaceship at a skybox, they are actually used right.

I do agree however if you have a window at a wall inside, it need some kind of good window, or else ppl will try and fire trough it believing its possible. With a window ppl would understand they cant penetrate it even though its transparent.

Pstrangler

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Thanks! good news :)

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I do agree however if you have a window at a wall inside, it need some kind of good window, or else ppl will try and fire trough it believing its possible. With a window ppl would understand they cant penetrate it even though its transparent.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The point was exactly an opening to show the base/ship/station's surroundings to add depth but meaning the area has to be inaccessible. or otherwise players could fall off into the void or walk on top of the map and exploit by shooting at unsuspecting foes.

a clip brush would be useful too to prevent players to access stuck prone area.
If you load the test map #2, you can get stuck by walking where an angled pipe reaches a wall, the angle could be leveled with an invisible clip brush.